@Kimi2007 With regards to Ferrari and Dallara, I doubt that will ever happen. Look what happened between the "marriage" of Ferrari and Pininfarina(whom I consider to be a top-notch "carrozzeria" or car design/ coachbuilder) that have designed for Ferrari some very famous bodies for the Scuderia. That umbilical has been severed.
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Never say never. When someone helps you win the biggest race in the world after 50 years, it can change things. I see a collaboration between Ferrari and Dallara as far more probable than Ferrari moving anything to the UK again. I loved the Pininfarina designs too, but they changed. It's not the same company, and they were falling behind the times. The thing about Dallara is, the track record of success is pretty clear. From sportscar to single-seaters, they bring a lot to the table. That isn't to say they're perfect, or that Ferrari should have them totally control their F1 program. But the days of designing everything in-house in racing seem to be over. Even Porsche no longer does it, because they recognize times have changed.
Ffs, this is why I say the Sainz camp (including his fans) makes Ferrari toxic. Leclerc has been told to hold position multiple times this season, which he has done. Also the cr@p against Charles after the race about fighting on track was laughable. Sainz was the one way over limit with his defending (moving under braking like 3 times in straight, corner cutting etc.) Ferrari has given equal treatment this season to their drivers, and I appreciate Leclerc with going with that status, even though he would be entitled to demand #1 driver status, having been Ferrari's fastest driver for 5 years now. He is a proper racer, unlike Sainz jr. Sainz Sr. : "Carlos has to ask why sometimes they can fight each other and sometimes not" https://soymotor.com/f1/noticias/sainz-sr-carlos-debe-preguntar-por-que-unas-veces-pueden-luchar-entre-ellos-y-otras-no
Is "crashing often" all you Leclerc hate puppets have to say? Sainz has crashed atleast same amount if not more during their time together at Ferrari. Where were you in 2022 when Sainz was kissing the gravel every other race?
Genuine question here, but when was Leclerc asked to hold position this year except for last weekend? I'm not talking about when Leclerc has had damage. A straight forward team order with no asterisks. Because I know Sainz has definitely been asked this multiple times this year but I've not heard it once when it applied to Leclerc? Only Zandvoort (damaged car) and Italy (risk of double dnf).
Funny how not being a blind worshiper immediately deserves the qualification of hate puppet ... that shows the depth of analysis capacities.
The answer is none. I'm a Leclerc fan too, but some of his more aggressive supporters are just embarrassing. They defend him even when he's wrong, pretend his weaknesses aren't weaknesses, and that pretty much nothing is ever his fault. They remind me of some of Hamliton's fans, sorry to say. Sainz has always obeyed team orders and not held Leclerc up, or tried to battle him for position when ordered to stand down. He has every right to be furious with Leclerc after the latter risking both of their results in Monza, and Vasseur should hold Leclerc accountable behind the scenes.
When Sainz had a few bad races in 22', he was crucified by the 'Only Leclerc' crowd. Now crashing is some godly event that makes that puts one in league with Senna. Leclerc is a good driver, but he has a weaknesses to work on, and his most aggressive supporters do him no favors writing that nothing is ever his fault for him to read all over the internet, when he needs to start taking responsibility for his mistakes.
Those are my feelings too. I'm a big fan of Leclerc but that doesn't mean you have to turn a blind eye to everything. The constant attacks on Sainz are totally unfair, as well.
If there is something Charles always did is to take responsability for his mistakes, more than anyone else. I find funny people keep talking about his mistakes, well, just look at the amount of stupid mistakes Elton (previously known by his fans as mr perfect, no mistakes) is doing after losing his dominant car? same mistake she did before joining mercedes. His mistakes are not for trying more than the car car give, they're just clumsy, but people prefer to badmouth Charles instead. If some want to blame Charles for trying too hard in a bad car, so be it, i personaly don't care, as long as he doesn't hurt himself or his confidence i will always perfer for him to try firsts rat6her than setle for second, whyen he's got a title winning car, than we can think about gathering points and strategic thinking.
Bas, Sainz checks all the right boxes, he's a polite guy, hard working, well spoken, good driver, and he's reasonably fast (after all he's besides what is probably the fastest man in f.1 ), but behind all that, there is a huge propaganda and political agenda, run by his father, spanish media and spanish sponsors, always have. Red bull never rated him highly brfore f.1, even after he had won GP" title, and he got the place by sponsoship and influence, rather then Marko believing in his talent. Same way santander was crucual to put him at Ferrari, and you can be sure Binotto was trying to favour him over Charles last year, not once, not twice, but several times, which was just ridiculous because he wa snowhere near Charles. Charles is not having a good year, i believe he got incredibly and increasingly frustrated after the first races, and he needs some peace of mind to perform at his best elvel, it's not pressure, he can cope with that well, it's just a mather of confidence in the car and team. Some drivers just pull an extra gear when they have something to go for, I remenber mika neve rlooked better than Coulthrard at Mclaren before they had a winning car after that D.C never saw him again, just like at Ferrari last year.
The way he has resisted Leclerc's attacks (on track and in the media ) over the years makes me appreciate Sainz more. Before he joined Ferrari, I thought he was just an average driver, but he has become a very good player. Leclerc has disappointed me by his attitude. Not a good team leader, IMO.
Saudi Arabia GP 2023 just quickly from top of my head. I would like a written apology from you Bas and kimi2007 for undermining other users with clear facts, by shouting over them with hot air takes.
Oh wow! One race where Leclerc didn't have the pace to get around Sainz anyways. My deepest apologies. All of 22' Sainz followed orders like a team player. He doesn't owe Leclerc anything.
A written apology for asking a question? You're going to be waiting on that a very, very long time, as certainly from me you'll never, ever get that. I asked a question, I'm not going to f'in apologize for you giving an answer.
Furoni is right, Sainz needs to go to Audi, he is even poisoning the ferrarichat forums now by dividing posters. Bas already joined orange army, don't want him to go any further into darkness by embracing santander drivers.
