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  1. jpalmito

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    Just a big applause for the so-called Formula One specialists who described the SF-24 as a basic car during the winter( Scarborough, Anderson ..)compared with the Mercedes and the Aston.
    In the end they are just like me:
    They knows nothing about modern cars and Aero.
     
  2. crinoid

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    I’m quietly anticipating the upgrades for the SF-24 at Imola.
     
  3. USMCS6

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    When do we get to hear the bells ring!
     
  4. crinoid

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    New rumor Ferrari bringing Imola upgrades to Japan !!
     
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  5. DF1

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    https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/ferraris-simple-f1-design-tweak-that-helped-topple-red-bull/10591975/

    Ferrari’s simple F1 design tweak that helped topple Red Bull
    Ferrari inflicted a rare defeat on Red Bull in the Australian Grand Prix, and while this owed much to outside factors, it coincided with a new design innovation.

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    Ferrari introduced a new but simplistic solution in Melbourne, as a winglet could be found mounted either side of the curved exhaust surround and rear wing pillar mounting on the SF-24.

    It’s interesting that we haven’t seen anyone place winglets here before, given it’s clearly allowed within that box region and especially as Formula 1 designers have a penchant for placing aerodynamic surfaces wherever possible, with devices like the T-Wing a testament to this.

    Despite this being the first time we’ve seen a winglet here, it’ll now likely be something we see other teams add to their arsenal during the course of the season, with these pylon winglets expected to help repurpose some of the heat being rejected from the engine cover outlet and improve flow downstream to the beam wing.


    Notably, Ferrari also made the switch to just a single element beam wing configuration for qualifying and the race having initially prepared the SF-24 with its bi-plane style arrangement.

    The team clearly felt that this lower downforce configuration better suited the demands of the Albert Park circuit, having trialled its other solution in practice on Friday. The rear wing remained in the same configuration it had during the course of the first two races, with the new, lower downforce configuration taken to Saudi Arabia still remaining unused and under wraps.
     
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  6. jpalmito

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    Rumors from Italy said they are expecting a substantial gain from this Imola aero package.
    Fingers crossed !
     
  7. HotShoe

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    Ummm, how did Ferrari "topple" Redbull when they lost because of a mechanical failure? Am I missing something? o_O

    Lol, we get one lucky win and all of a sudden Ferrari can walk on water. I guess I'm skeptical after all these years but I'm not getting my hopes up until we get at least another win thru merit and not luck. I need to see them pass/hold off Max for a win before I "believe".
     
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  8. jgonzalesm6

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    My feeling exactly. I took the article with a pinch of salt. Let's see how the rest of the season goes.

    Also Perez was unfortunate with a self induced penalty and some downforce issue during the race.

    The last 3 qualifying sessions, Perez has gaped Max by less than 4 tenths CONSISTENTLY so far.
     
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  9. DF1

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    Catching headline but a neat modification for added DRS effect. Sports-journo!
     
  10. USMCS6

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    For all you in the know folk.... Ferrari has to be between a **** and a sweat. CS is not coming back, but he is VERY competitive. Ferrari has to know they wont get a WDC, but a constructors is in play. They need Carlos to play ball, but I'm thinking at some point they need to limit his exposure to advanced tech. I hope Fred has a REALLY good plan. The good thing is I think Carlos is a professional.
     
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  11. jpalmito

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    Frankly all is related with the supposed step Ferrari is going to make with their new aero package in Imola.
    If this one is what they are expecting for then we are in for a WDC and WCC battle.
     
  12. Bas

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    RB is having significant upgrades as well....on a new concept with presumably higher to explore ceiling as well. So I'd be a bit careful about a potential WCC battle, let alone WDC
     
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  13. jpalmito

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    True,
    Sorry for having a moment of optimism..;):)
     
  14. Top speed

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    Yet no one can guarantee that RB's upgrades will work. Ofc same can be said about Ferrari's.

    There is always high potential in all kinds of concepts until you test them on real track, you can ask Merc about that...

    Ferrari has alot of "low hanging fruit" development in their car, the SF-24 is still in baby steps. I think Imola will tell if there is gonna be any fight at all this year.
     
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    The optimism is unfounded, I'm afraid. At Melbourne both Red Bulls had issues, and it's not a normal track anyway.

    I'd be happy if we can get a few more wins, asking for more without further evidence is not realistic.
     
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    NASCAR has normal tracks. F1 had 24 unique tracks.
     
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  17. Kimi2007

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    Ferrari did win on merit. To finish first, first you must finish. Max's RB didn't and that's their problem. They've won for than a few races on Leclerc or Ferrari having some bad luck, so one coming around is just the racing gods leveling some things.

    Could Max have challenged Sainz? Hard to say. RB only looked hooked up in Q3, and the Ferrari was much better in race trim than anyone expected. Ditto for McLaren. I think Max could've gotten second, but even that would've been tough given Leclerc and Norris's pace.

    I do agree that it's way too soon to start talking about a title. Red Bull will be back. They are the class of the field. I do, however, believe Ferrari can win more races, and that Vasseur and Cardile deserve some credit for the teams progress since Binotto and his clown show being cancelled.
     
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    The bottom line is that not a single team knows what their upgrades will do or won't do. It is all guessing and hoping since they have zero chance to actually test anything before a race weekend...another stupid F1 idea that is now a rule. And after the race weekend, their so-called digesting the numbers, is really just more guessing. This is a pathetic shadow of what F1 racing used to be. Carlos won because Max broke down. That is the only fact that came out of Australia. Japan will be test weekend number 4...probably where they should have been going into race #1.
     
  19. jpalmito

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    This is the trend indeed.
    Mainly depends on how we will improve the car during the year.
    Pretty confident with Vasseur’s troops right now..
     
  20. jpalmito

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    Absolutely my thoughts!
     
  21. jpalmito

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    Just as a reminder last year SF23 was abysmal with tyre wears and one year later SF24 is one of the best in race trim.
    To be honest I wouldn’t have expected such progress within a year.
     
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  22. Sp1der71

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    Except they use simulation and providing past correlation is in place they know what the upgrades will do, the only team on the grid that doesn't is mercedes
     
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  23. jcurry

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    and AMR and ……..
     
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    I guess my idea of merit is different then.

    If you and I are running a 400m sprint and you trip and fall at the start because your shoe lace became untied I wouldn't feel I earned that victory. Yes, I won and it is a victory but in my mind it's not any where near the same if I had beaten you man to man. As a competitor there is nothing I hate more than a hollow win thru a DQ or technicality.

    Can't wait to see how they do wheel to wheel, no holds barred!
     
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  25. william

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    Yes a win is a win, and "Beggars can't be choosers !"
    Ferrari has been craving for a win long enough, I guess, that they can't suddenly start to be picky about the way they got one in Australia !
    But I agree that one cannot get too complacent about winning by default, strictly speaking you haven't proven anything.
    Knowing Ferrari, they will think they are now better and lower their guard. It never fails with them. ;)
     
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