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Searching for 246 Dino

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  1. schwoo

    schwoo Formula Junior

    Jun 22, 2013
    845
    Florida
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    Marquette
    Searching for a 246 Dino. Would appreciate any advice or leads. Thank you-
     
  2. jcm12

    jcm12 Karting

    Apr 18, 2013
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    Western KY
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    Jay Mayolo
  3. schwoo

    schwoo Formula Junior

    Jun 22, 2013
    845
    Florida
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    Marquette
    still searching for 246 Dino- prices are all over the place Canepa has GTS but wants 550, Fantasy Junction 375 for driver quality, Copley 395 low mileage but blue interior. Had no ideas prices have increased so much. For these prices, could get 458 Italia spyder. But in 5 years the Dino should hold its price or even appreciate. The Italia will depreciate. Apples and oranges. But can't have both. Every time I see a Dino it tugs at my heart- But all the feedback on the 458 has been very positive. Does it simply come down to being a old car guy vs new? If anyone has advice on finding a Dino please advise, what to look for, any consistent problems to look for, etc. Love FerrariChat! Thanks
     
  4. nick@island-fever.com

    Jul 17, 2013
    12
    I had a 1972 dino back in the late 70's. It was an amazing car for it's time. Performance wise a modern Nissan coupe would do as well. I would not hesitate to get another one just due to beautiful styling of the car, it truley is the most beautiful Ferrari ever made (in my opionion). I wish I could afford one. If performance is what you are looking for I would go with the Italia - but if a classic Ferrari Beauty is what you are after then go for the Dino.
     
  5. synchro

    synchro F1 Veteran

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    #6 synchro, Jan 23, 2014
    Last edited: Jan 23, 2014
    You have not mentioned if you want a GT hardtop or GTS Spider. Have you decided?

    These are the last of the Enzo era cars with chrome bumpers and comparison in price to modern cars like your 458 Italia Spider is understandable but does not carry over on any other level. Very little can be compared to the driving experience of a 458 or arrival impact when viewed from the cockpit of a Dino. The 458 is a modern, smooth running engine while the Dino era cars idled roughly and needed to rev.
    The 458 is a depreciating asset and Ferrari makes thousands of them.
    The Dino is a rarity that can be driven and enjoyed but is the tribute that Enzo made to his only legitimate son. In addition Dinos are chain driven cam engines and maintenance is low save for fluids and electricals in the weak ignition box and starter. Daytona owners know that a change to the modern ignition boxes, like MSD, solve that problem and this change also makes the Dino reliable. Coupled with a modern gear reduction starter will solve starting issues.

    Be very careful when searching for a Dino, they are rust buckets and with the recent price increases it brings cars of all condition out of the woodwork. These cars were only painted on the outside so when I see dealer claims of "no rust seen" it makes me cringe as the underside of the metal has 40+ years of exposure to the air. Your note about dealer pricing rings true on this. An easy fix is to remove the Belly Pan and address the spine & laterals, see this thread:
    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/206-246/274368-246-underbelly-restoration.html


    The hardtop GTs were the lesser priced cars that owner's who could barely pay to get into these bought which is reflected in lack of maintenance and operation costs spent by owners. Although nearly three times as many GT Hardtops were made, compared to GTS Spiders, but many GT hardtops fell to the junk pile after a car accident.

    If possible, buy the Dino Compendium or any of the other Dino book to become more informed on the different varieties and their weaknes in rust or electrics.

    Sorry for the lengthy post, I'm a bit passionate and have two Dinos that would glad to be of any service should you need advice or opinions.
    Here is a video a Hollywood producer made of one of my Dinos for his Drive series show, enjoy!
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1s2iHEL7vs&feature=relmfu]Dino 246GTS - YouTube[/ame]
     
  6. PlaysWithItalians

    PlaysWithItalians Formula Junior

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    Mark
  7. schwoo

    schwoo Formula Junior

    Jun 22, 2013
    845
    Florida
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    Marquette
    Thank you all for your help- I appreciate your time and advice.
     
  8. synchro

    synchro F1 Veteran

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  9. kiwiokie

    kiwiokie Formula 3

    Aug 19, 2013
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    John McDermott
    I believe the OP is looking for a 246 Dino not the Fiat variety.
     
  10. RED GTS

    RED GTS Formula Junior

    Jun 14, 2004
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    Gungnir
    Roy sold the dino before it ever reached his site
     
  11. synchro

    synchro F1 Veteran

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    Have you narrowed down whether you want a GT or GTS?
     
  12. RiteDrive

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  13. synchro

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  14. RiteDrive

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  15. dinogts

    dinogts Formula 3
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    I think schwoo left the building a LONG time ago....

    I don't think he was prepared for the prices.
     
  16. scowman

    scowman F1 Rookie

    Mar 25, 2014
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    Driver Source in Houston has a green barn find in their back garage that is going to auction at Amelia Island.
     
  17. Bullfighter

    Bullfighter Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Jan 26, 2005
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    No. If I had the cash and garage space, I'd keep my '56 Porsche and '85 Ferrari and add a 458. They scratch very different itches.
     
  18. Bullfighter

    Bullfighter Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Yeah... if he was shocked in January 2014...
     
  19. schwoo

    schwoo Formula Junior

    Jun 22, 2013
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    Marquette
    Still here, doing my homework, learning the market. Numbers matching, nonmatching, Gt, Gts, etc. I think whoever purchased keith's for 350 bought well. Prices are all over the place. Personally, I think prices will continue to increase. Taking my time, as I don't want to pay top dollar for the wrong car. Will be at the Amelia auction. They are beautiful cars, i want to enjoy , pass it on to my son. At the end of the day break even or increase your investment -
     
  20. 123howie

    123howie F1 World Champ

    Jul 3, 2014
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    Saw one on Feebay tonight.
     
  21. mebowles

    mebowles Karting

    Jan 7, 2013
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    Very true, classic vs new Fcars do scratch different itches. I sold my 430 to afford a Dino and have not looked back. I needed to scratch that new car/techno/speed itch but at the end of the day realized that I could have more fun with a classic Ferrari at lower velocity and with less speeding tickets. Since then my Dino has skyrocketed in value, and I could buy my 430 back without flinching. If you decide you want a 458 in the future, just wait a while...prices will come down.
     
  22. Rich S

    Rich S Formula Junior

    Nov 30, 2013
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    Monterey, California
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    Rich Saylor
    Though there's been no mention at all of the later "Dino" cars- the 308 & 328- are they so very different that you won't even consider one? Ignoring the fact that the later ones are (by Ferrari standards) available to so many more of us and therefore lacking in snob factor, by virtue of owning one- the 308/328's are still lovely, elegant pieces of sculpture. The difference in price is vast, even for a nice one, and of course the performance is only to be wished for in a 246. Beautiful cars, of course (I wanted one too but could not afford one when new) but the later models are also pretty darn nice- in fact the very image of what a small, 2 seat sports car ought to be. Then or now, IMO. Consider also that the 328's have nearly identical performance to the earlier 12-cylinder 275 GTB cars, very good performance figures in their day, the 275's are now becoming the most expensive rides on the planet, especially the handful of NART examples!

    At this point even were an even trade to be offered- a 246 GTS for my current 328 GTS- I'm not sure I'd take the offer, relative value of the two not as a factor to be considered of course. As many others have said, it's nice just to sit in the garage on a low seat and simply stare at it (with a small libation of course) and be very, very happy! Nice, nice cars!

    Cheers,
    Rich
     

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