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Discussion in '360/430' started by Ray Smith, Jan 29, 2021.
Nudge of a warning - Keep it civil guys / gals. Thanks.
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I'll just ignore him.
Ray, im not politically motivated, in fact i know very little of politics
In several posts you have said “dont buy them or it etc”, you are adding nothing of value, it seems you like to provoke people (which you did)
Id kindly ask you to engage in a discussion in a manner that is constructive
My comment was lighthearted
If we can keep the discussions civil and on point please
The length of my posts can be long or short.
I dont see how anything i have said is negative?
I dont wish to enter a discussion with you further
Lets keep on point
In an attempt to get back on topic....I still maintain this is more a preventative approach for avoiding eDiff problems than a performance discussion.
Although interesting to hear the 430 Challenge doesn’t use an eDiff.
Short drive on mine and it felt smoother in turns, but this is all subjective, I cannot provide real data. Backing up out of my driveway would always get some noise from the diff, I didn’t notice it this time. I generally drive in Sport.
I’m a happy customer.
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430 challenge has a motorsport LSD for simplicity, reliability, weight saving and because the whole car is optimised for one thing. Road driving requires compromises, and that’s where the adaptability of the e-diff comes in, especially for the average Joe driver.
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I would prefer a simple LSD. Every performance car I've ever owned had one. Sure Grip on my HEMI Roadrunner in '68, on my HEMI Cuda (Vitamin C) in '70 (both Dana-Spicer type 60s from a dump truck), and Positraction on every Corvette. Transferring torque from the unloaded inner wheel to the wheel with the weight transfer seems intuitive.
But, I didn't buy the SEB for a performance oriented reason. I bought it to avoid a potentially expensive and disabling failure of the complex E-diff internals. Much like the headers I installed. I didn't do that for performance reasons, but to avoid the engine ingesting catalytic converter material during valve overlap and destroying the $75k engine.
My 430, as delivered, provides more power and torque than can reasonably used on public roads. And that is true of my four Corvettes, especially the two Z06 cars. So spending money to increase performance seems like carrying coal to Newcastle. I prefer to spend the money on safety and reliability upgrades.
And the SEB includes a remote which can re-enable it if necessary.
It was the look of the 430 I found compelling.
The e-diff is cool engineering and unless the system is failing, personally, I prefer to keep it engaged. Then again, if the e-diff is stressing other components then maybe it would be a nice feature to have particularly when not driving in a spirited manner. And as stated, it can be disabled. I'm driving an 2009 f430 with only 9,000 miles so maybe I'm not experiencing issues yet that other folks are.
Both are me, but luckily I have a 360 so I’m on the fringes in this one.
-Guy who was raised by parents who were kids both post depression era and survived WW2:
Good to be frugal and avoid unnecessary expenses turn it off.
-Guy who owns a ferrari:
If you can’t afford to maintain the car perhaps you should sell it.
Question, are e-diffs failing?
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On the question of eDiffs failing....the solenoid causes problems, I believe this addresses that situation or drastically reduces the potential of having an issue.