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Seeking 355 Challenge in US

Discussion in 'Challenge/GT Cars/Track' started by tortesq1, Sep 30, 2014.

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  1. m80hot

    m80hot Formula Junior

    May 15, 2006
    299
    manchester uk
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    Rich
    Well done ... Epic
     
  2. brunetti

    brunetti Karting

    Nov 25, 2006
    51
    Los Angeles
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    Dana Brunetti
    I am also looking for a 355C that I can both street and track. Any leads appreciated.
     
  3. jakermc

    jakermc Formula 3
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    Jan 17, 2004
    1,804
    Palm Beach, FL
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    Rob
    My 2-time CCR Champion car will be listed shortly, but it's a '98 so not street legal. But it is the fastest CCR legal 355 on the planet!
     
  4. 355dreamer

    355dreamer F1 World Champ
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    Apr 3, 2006
    10,476
    DC Metro
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    L.C.
    Yours is such a neat car. I remember drooling over it at a show in Richmond VA a few years ago.
     
  5. Llenroc

    Llenroc F1 Veteran
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    Jun 9, 2004
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    Vern
    #106 Llenroc, Oct 30, 2014
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    This is not correct. I owned a '97 factory built 355CH, the VIN is a 17 digit North American number with the "A" in the number as all '97/'98 factory CH cars had. I was able get a title for the car(bonded for three years) and registered/renewed for the ten years I owned it. I also checked with Dick Merritt to see if there was any type of a list "list" at the EPA or DOT for challenge cars, there wasn't.

    As was said earlier it probably would not pass a vehicle inspection that some states require but it was titled and registered in a state that did not require it.

    An interesting side note was what the MSO disclosed the car to be:
    "This vehicle conforms to U.S. EPA and state of California regulations applicable to 1994
    model year new motor vehicle"
    The MSO is dated 9/05/97. The 1994 date refers to the 2.7 motronic and no air bags. The model designation on the MSO is stated as "F355 B Challg"
     
  6. wrxmike

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    Mar 20, 2004
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    So as a '97 build, the car came with Motronic 5.2 fitted ?

    M
     
  7. Llenroc

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    #108 Llenroc, Oct 31, 2014
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    Hi Mike, the 355CH was a combination of various parts from different 355s. The engine management system is the 2.7 motronic from the '94-'95 model its airflow was better because of the 2 airflow meters and it had fewer sensors than the 5.2 that would trip CELs (example, fuel cap being lose the fuel neck is a non unleaded type). This would be the reason the MSO states that the car compiles with 1994 regs. The headers were also from the earlier 2.7 system with the upper y pipe from non cat cars, ie; South Africa/Middle East and no valve, this version flows better than the 5.2 system. The rest of the exhaust was specific to the CH.
    It is surprising the number of specific parts that it takes to make a 355CH outside of what I mentioned above, the list is long.
     
  8. wrxmike

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    Thanks - I have a 355CH (http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/138259137-post11.html)

    I was curious to see if the 97-98-99 cars where retrofitted with the M2.7, I'm assuming they would have started off as M5.2 cars ex factory.

    M
     
  9. Llenroc

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    #110 Llenroc, Nov 1, 2014
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    All of the factory '97-'98 CH cars came from the factory with 2.7 engine management. This was a large part of why they weren't street legal in the US (of course there are other reasons too). The EPA regs. changed in '96 to OBDII. (5.2 motronic). The 2.7 made a little more power and was more simplistic than the 5.2, ie; didn't have as many monitoring sensors and only 2 02 sensors than the 5.2. Since these cars weren't intended for street use Ferrari didn't need to federalize them. The later the car was in the run of CH units the more of the "challange kit" was installed at the factory. The car I owned had the pre '98 update CH pieces on the car from the factory that '98 update kit was added by the sponsoring dealer. The biggest part of that update was the rear wing.
    I was surprised Ferrari had convinced the DOT and the EPA to let the cars in the country without some sort of better contol. Maybe a different VIN no. that would throw up a red flag if some goof ball like myself tried to get it registered, LOL. Although most dealers would not release the MSO to the buyer so that would stop a lot people from getting titles for them.
     
  10. JFatigati

    JFatigati Karting

    Apr 10, 2011
    57
    New York
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    John Fatigati
    NNNOOOOOO!!!! On second thought, that CCR Champion watch could be mine....

    BTW, why is it so fast? Couldn't catch that thing all season. Must be illegal, that's why you're selling it. lol ;)
     
  11. jakermc

    jakermc Formula 3
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    Jan 17, 2004
    1,804
    Palm Beach, FL
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    Rob
    Still debating if I should mention the turbo charger in the listing ;)
     

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