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September 11, 2001 (have people begun to forget the tragic events of this day?)

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  1. JSinNOLA

    JSinNOLA Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I really feel that some people are beginning to forget how horrible that day was. Less than 3 years have passed and I wonder what people will think 10 years from now.

    Personally, I have about 20 video clips taken from Sept. 11th on my computer. Every few months I find myself watching the footage as a reminder. I get angier and angrier each time I watch it.

    Are we getting too complacent as a country?

    I get sad thinking about the possibility of people forgetting the men and women who perished that day. While this post may seem like a downer to some members here, I sincerely hope that it serves as a reminder of what transpired.

    Please don't forget...
     
  2. wax

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    There, but for the grace of God, go I.

    Let's put it this way, I caution anyone that is flippant about it. Then too, I reflect not just on my own reaction and it's lingering effects, but those who were directly touched. Because of the literal and figurative impact of 9/11, our destinies were remapped, and as such, memories should not be dulled. Not one of those victims would want us to forget, nor should we.
     
  3. mbmike

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    Every time I see images of 9/11 I get a bit teary eyed, to see something so terrible happen to our great nation.
     
  4. tonyh

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    Truly awful day. Pls don't think this has been forgotten, least of all by your friends from UK.
     
  5. BWS550

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    THANKS MATE FOR SHARING............ALSO I"LL NEVER FORGET THAT DAY, I LOST SOME DEAR PEOPLE FROM THAT TRAGIC,COWARDLY, ACT

    BRUCE
     
  6. WILLIAM H

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    Seems everybody who wants to vote for Kerry has forgotten as well as lost their minds

    I was in Manhattan Sept 11, I was also at the top of the Empire State on Sept 10, Scarey
     
  7. ralfabco

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    Never forget.
     
  8. JSinNOLA

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    What stands out in my mind the most was the stark contrast between Sept 10th and Sept 11th.

    The 10th was my 20th birthday. Since my birthday was on an odd day of the week I chose NOT to do the typical college time birthday blowout. Instead, I had a quite dinner with my mother that was one of the happiest days of my life. I left dinner on cloud 9, then returned to my dormroom to find that my roomates had gotten me a few small gifts. I was so content and happy to be living in this wonderful country.

    The next day came and I was woken up by my roomate yelling at me to get up and that we were at war. That day my entire sense of security was destroyed. Moving from the utter peacefulness of the night before into complete chaos really had its effects on me. Things changed inside me and I really began to grow up. I went from being a carefree child to a burdened adult in 24 hours.

    I was fortunate enough not to lose any friends or family on that day. Yet, one of my fraternity brothers was not so lucky. Ronald Bucca's father was one of the 2 fire fighters to reach the highest floors in the first tower hit.

    His son, my fraternity brother, had to be driven by a friend from New Orleans to New York the next day only to find out 2 weeks later that his father died in the collapse. I have read his name on the list of victims, and had a lot of trouble visiting the site months later. It serves as a reminder to me that I too could have lost someone close to me.

    I had been in NY in July 2001, and remember when we flew along side Manhattan the first thing that stood out was the WTC. 2 hours later I went to the World Financial Center to marval at the immensity of the area. Little did I know that this would be the last time I would see the towers standing.

    I know several of you were greatly affected by Sept 11th, with many of you losing close friends and relatives. Please know that millions of us will never forget and that our thoughts are eternally with you.
     
  9. tonyh

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    I was in Paris for a biz trip.Got a VERY strange call on mobile from number 2 on trading desk;
    " you're not going to believe this but a plane's just crashed into World Trade Centre"
    "hmm, that's a very bad pilot error" i said, " make sure we're long futures and don't sell any volatility"
    By now i feeling really uneasy and making sure Eurostar is still running , i cancelled the planned trip and went back to my hotel to collect my bag and return to London.Then i get dreaded 2 nd call from desk;
    "Another plane's crashed into Tower 2 ......."
    The strangest feeling was rushing back to the hotel while the rest of Paris -and probably rest of world- was just going about their normal daily routine .
    We got the last Eurostar for that day back to London and the first i saw of the terrible events of the day was on the news in our local pub. Everyone was just sitting watching in stunned silence.It was like watching a disaster movie...
    Except it was, of course, very real.
     
  10. JH

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    You just had to bring this into it.

    Seems like everyone voting for Bush, is all the ones who wants to kill all muslims and think they are all terrorists. The statement I just made is just as moronic as yours.

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    As for the rest of the thread, It has not been forgotten, but if it makes you angrier everytime you watch, then maybe you shouldn't watch them. It won't do you any good, and you will not forget the tragedy because you don't watch those clips.

    But you have to realize that just because people dont talk about it, doesn't mean that it has not been forgotten. Many people have said what they had to say about it, and really don't wanna talk it no more. It is 3 years ago now. Here in Denmark, we talk about among friends 1-2 times a month max, and that is ectually alot when you think of how long we are away from you and it didn't affect us in any way. So I can't imagine it being "less" of a talkable subject in the US.

    My 2 cents :)
     
  11. Evolved

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    Shame is a big reason why many Americans don't mention 9/11 that much anymore.
    It was a real in your face example of how weak, decadent and complacent America has(had?) become for all the world to see.
     
  12. JSinNOLA

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    Wow, I don't think I could disagree with you any more than I do. How about it being a real in your face example of how low terrorists would stoop in order to push their vile, extremist cause. Your thoughts make me gag :mad:
     
  13. infraredline

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    Wow this is moronic. Where are you getting this from?
     
  14. Z0RR0

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    oh, please, not again!

    The reason no one talks about it is because we had to watch the damn footage over and over on 200 channels for weeks, if not months. And very honestly, I've had it.

    It's very sad, of course, the families should be honored, but this isn't the worst ever thing ever happening to humanity like everyone likes to whine about. It was terrible, but there's been worse, and there will be. It's another page of a history book. And people are making it a 12 volume edition.
     
  15. JSinNOLA

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    You are right, its not like it was the worst attack on US soil in history...oh wait, it was. Thumbs down
     
  16. JH

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    I think he was referring to the rest of the world. And he did not say terrorist attack specificly, he ment tragedy in a whole. And it really isn't the worst thing that has happened. It was horrible, but its not the worst thing happening in the world.
     
  17. wax

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    It was, however, the most blatant act of terrorism. 9/11 was meant to intimidate not only the US, but the world.
     
  18. whart

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    I don't really think it affected the rest of the world the way it affected US citizens, and i don't think it affected the majority of US citizens the way it affected New Yorkers. (With due respect to the folks at the Pentagon, they were part of the industrial-military complex, except of course, for the civilians on the plane). The folks bailing out of buildings were your average mix of people from everywhere, but the literal and emotional impact of seeing parts of your city shattered out of nowhere--for no apparent reason--was, and remains shocking. That's why, at least in the US, there is a ban, formal or informal (does anyone know anything more about this) on showing the footage of people jumping. The city was haunted after that for months, the dirt, the smells, the thousands of pictures of the missing and the shrines, flowers, candles, everywhere, everybody waiting for the next boot to drop. Times Square was a ghost town that first week after. Tourists stayed away, and then started to visit the site. The city, which was already plagued with budgetary problems, was a little dirtier, and alot more secure.
    But, what's the legacy? Some half-assed piece of architecture, by an emminently forgettable designer, with a few token nods to the lost?
    I see bumper stickers, even today, "We shall not forget" and cars flying little American flags or flag decals where there were none before. But, that's not really a reminder, either.
    Think of the end of the world. Think of all you know in flames, all you love dying and dead, and all you believe put to ruin. This is what our "enemies" in the shadows, in the training camps, in the ghettos of some of our biggest cities, and in the palaces of some of the places in the Mid-East and elsewhere want for us, simply because we are Americans.
    So, if you need to get mad to remember what's out there, if you need to see what they did to one of your cities, and to folks no different than you, your wife, your husband or any of your children, watch those tapes. Its alot healthier than listening to the platitudes of our politicians, no matter which side you really believe. (And do you believe any of them?)
    Zorro is right about one thing; its just one "page" in a history book. What will the rest of the pages show?
    It was in some ways, as Jonas says, not the worst thing in the world. Indifference to it, and to other atrocities, would be.
    But who has time for compassion for death and destruction on the other side of the world when your own life is not directly affected? Most of the rest of the world was kind, sympathetic, and their lives, and the lives of others, here, moved on.
    The folks supporting the appeasement campaign didn't forget; they just don't see it as a vicious threat to American values because they don't agree with alot of those values to begin with; remember, in their minds, we were the aggressor, and if the folks in the Towers didn't exactly deserve what they got, it was still payback for our foreign policy. That's why John Kerry wants to apologize to the rest of the world, and Michael Moore would rather blame Bush than look at the ghettos of his own beloved city of Detroit for some of the people that might really be responsible. But, it doesn't matter. Because this war ain't gonna stop before or after this election, and politicians will come and go, and people will still die for the sake of some long dead belief that makes it easier to justify their own miserable existence. And the world keeps turning.
     
  19. JH

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    Wow, very good post. I am, for once, speechless.
     
  20. Poodie

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    its amazing that it was nearly 3 years ago. it seems like it was yesterday. i dont think this date will ever be forgotten.
     

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