A 575F1 with 8,000 miles. I'm not looking for an exact number, just something in the ballpark. Belts: Not only cam belts, but all auxiliary belts as well. Fluids: Full replacement of all serviceable fluids. Hoses: Replacement of all. A/C: Service including purge and recharge. Thanks
"Search" is your friend http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/456-550-575-sponsored-bradan/539529-550-annual-service-cost-dealer.html
Replacing all the coolant hoses requires removing the intake manifold, so matches up well with a cambelt change, providing it is not a lock and swap. Note the hoses, these from SRI, are expensive. Bloody thing will not let me use SRI's url. Google SRI Ferrari.
I saw that earlier post but I was clear on what constitutes the annual service tht you asked abut. That's why I enumerated the specific items that I did. Thanks.
Gary- What you listed is not an annual service, but a 5 year service plus additional items. Aux belts are a 3 year service, but always done, too, when cambelts are changed. Annual service usually consists of fluid and filter changes and inspections. Some fluids' recommended change intervals are two years, although some pros like to change them all every year for extra insurance. F1 service (change fluid, bleed, set PIS) should be at least every 3 years from Ferrari's last recommendation. Most of the 575M plenum hoses (3 of 5) are silicone and probably do not need changing, unlike the 550. AC service should be the same as it is for any car with R-134 for refrigerant. Ferrari calls for that every 2 years, including changing the receiver/dryer but many owners do not do it so often. 550 and 575M maintenance costs are very similar, except the cams do not have to be removed to change cam seals on the 575M.
Thank you for that information. I'm not thinking along the lines of required service intervals. What I am trying to get at is if I drove into a dealer/independent and requested that all of those service items I listed be done in one visit.
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/456-550-575-sponsored-bradan/388239-550-maintenance-cost-update.html
And ask specifically what you get for your money. There is zero standardization of services across the market place.
^^ This. You will likely be comparing "apples and oranges" when comparing prices for a 575M major service. Also, IMHO, it is best to take it to a shop with the strongest reputation for providing the highest quality service. Sometimes the small dollars you save by bargain hunting can end up costing you way more in the end. .
I agree but it needs to be said that there is little connection between the quality of the service and the price. I have seen some outrageous prices charged by some very bad shops. In general if you get a large price spread it is fairly safe to ignore the highest and lowest 10%.
To clarify, I'm in SoCal. I have called around to both dealers and indies. The strange thing is that I can't seem to get any numbers. Oh, one place gave me a price for a cam belt change/service. But that wasn't exactly what I was seeking. When I asked about both a full fluid and hose replacement, nothing but a lot of hemming and hawing. I told one place that I just needed a guesstimate on hose replacement labor since I know the price of the parts (thanks, Terry). I was told he couldn't give a price since he didn't know which hoses would be replaced. I guess he didn't understand the part where I said replace ALL per the SRI hose kit. It was the same thing when it came to a full fluid service. The AC service I can pretty much figure out myself. I'm just baffled that even a ballpark (+/- $500) seems so hard to get.
Gary- Most of the labor involved in replacing the hoses is removing the intake manifold. If that is done during a cambelt change that includes degreeing the cams, it is probably only a couple of hours at most, say $200-300. So taking the other numbers shown in the 550 zero thread and assuming nothing else needs to be done, the $4000-6000 plus $1300 gives you some idea. Give Gary Bobileff a call. He is usually a straight shooter and can get the SRI kit for you as well. If additional work needs to be done, price will go up. Parts for a 575M 5 year are ~$1275 from Ricambi and the rest is labor. My techs say the 575M is a bit more of a pain than the 550, because more stuff has to be removed. Add in $250-400 if you want the injectors cleaned and resealed, too. Really helps cold starts. 575M Major Service Kit - Ricambi America, Inc.
A time belt service including all necessary materials is quoted by my Ferrari specialist at a fixed price of 1.000 € plus VAT, finally 1.190 €. Additionally, there are some more regular yearly mantainance issues (… engine oil, gearbox oil, filters and cooling fluid). The issue of replacing all the cooling hoses doesn't seem to be a big theme here in Europe. Even if the mileage of an average European Maranello seems to be much higher than in the U.S., there are view problems known regarding this point.....
Thanks to all who have responded to my inquiry. I now have at least an inkling of the costs involved.
Affirmative on the hoses. My 575M has ~23,500 miles and still has the original hoses. All are in perfect shape, probably because the coolant is flushed and changed regularly. Since Ferrari still does not recommend coolant changes, that has caused a lot of damage to Ferraris, some of which may never have had a coolant change.
Oh no not another "look it up" If the original post offends you--don't waste our time or yours w a silly response
Who said it offends anyone? He is referring the poster to a further source of information. Talk about silly responses.
I'm in socal too and do all my own ferrari repair. It is not baffling at all when you understand what is entailed for even a simple thing like replacing a water pump right in the front of the engine or even a battery. There is no definition of what a Major or minor or annual service is from Ferrari. So 1st you have to compare what is actually being done as RD says. 2nd you have to fine a competent person to do it and not be just a robot part replacer on time constraint. 3rd you have to have a guy with enough knowledge to source reliable parts. Just buying Ferrari parts is not good enough. Price for anything will vary 3 fold for any number of reasons. Your positive or negative outcome will vary due to the interplay of all 4 of those things.
