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  1. JIMBO

    JIMBO Formula 3
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    Oct 31, 2003
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    Jim DeRespino
    I have a late production 1994 512TR. The AC compressor was making a ticking noise when cold, and, upon inspection, the main pivot bolt for the compressor (bottom) had come loose. I re-tightened it, but I fear the threads are stripped in the block. It is holding well right now, and I'll keep a close eye on it, but is there a fix that can be accomplished with the engine in the car? It is mucho difficult to work in that area. Is there a temporary fix (threadlocker?) until the next service? The car currently has 48000 miles (I did the 30K service in 2003, and I plan on another 12K before replacing the belts, and yeah, I know the recommended belt service intervals).

    Question 2:
    In the course of replacing the AC belt and fooling with the bolts, both crank sensor connections crumbled (almost 20 years old). I'm thinking of just replacing them both with 3-wire weather-tight connections now, and maybe getting new stock-type connections when the engine next comes out. Whaddya think? I'm not too concerned with stock appearance. Any suggestions on where to obtain modern wire connectors? The crank sensors seem to be placed in the most inaccessible positions. Any advice on how to take them out (remove this or that first, etc)? I may ultimately have to call upon the power of Shamile (he of the sinewy forearms) to reach those bad boys.

    Thanks.
     
  2. netman

    netman Formula 3

    Jun 17, 2008
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    Heli coil can help with thread and bolt issues.
     
  3. JIMBO

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    I've used helicoil in the past with good results in other applications. The problem with this bolt is that the bolt head abuts on a radiator hose before it comes all the way out of the AC bracket. This is good, because I did not lose the bolt when it came loose, but bad because you have to fully compress the hose with a big screwdriver or other long tool in order to get the bolt out (very difficult without a second pair of hands).
    If the bolt comes loose again, I will try threadlocker (it seems fairly snug, but will not tighten all the way in). Next engine out, it gets fixed right.
     
  4. Sunracer

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    Pierre Beniston
    You can buy a steel epoxy type thread repair product. You mix it up, and put it in the bolt hole. There is a release agent you apply to the bolt threads, then thread it in. After it sets you can remove the bolt, install your bracket and tighten it and it will make a fairly strong repair, especially if the threads aren't completely destroyed. Easy enough to drill out later and repair properly when you have access.
     
  5. Ferrari Tech

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    Mar 5, 2010
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    Wade Williams
    The bolt you in question really does not need to be tight. It does not hold the compressor with clamping force, it is just a pivot. I do agree you need to repair the threads, but as you stated, this cannot be done in the car. I think you will do well with the LocTite until you have the engine out and can access the threaded lug on the block for repairs.

    The crank sensor has AMP connectors I believe. I know we (FMoA) have used replacement parts for just that type of repair.
     
  6. deeprivergarage

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    I think I have seen the electrical connectors only on eBay as replacement parts for similar sensors. They may have been under SMP (Standard Motor Parts) brand.

    DRG
    Jerry
     
  7. JIMBO

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    Do the crank sensors come with the short harness attached?
     

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