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  1. dongsoo_chae

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    May I ask if your xx is with Multimatic suspension or magneride?
     
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  2. phanliu

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    I got the lifter so was told it’s the magneride


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  3. Simone458

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    Absolutly
     
  5. Fortis

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    Perhaps this question was answered but can someone clarify the type of suspension available for the SF90XX?

    My SA is telling me that it is similar with the suspanetion I have on my AF SF90S and if that's the case I am very happy because that's what I want but I recently read a review online and the journalist talked about using bumpy mode and that really confused me.

    Can anyone here help me figure out the type of suspension available? TIA
     
  6. Simone458

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    you can choose between mono setup shock absorber, without suspension lifter (as AF Pack) or magnaride suspension with lifter
     
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  7. Fortis

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    So there is only a single type of shock absorber available? Thank you.
     
  8. of2worlds

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    No he is saying there are two types. MagneRide is a unique
    controlled suspension technology that utilizes magneto-rheological (MR) fluid-filled dampers and sophisticated control strategies. Think firm to soft vs. a set rate on the Multimatic setup.
    The optional Multimatic system is more race oriented without the lifter option.
    With that said the MagneRide system is supposedly tuned for this application to give suspension handling results closer to the Multimatic system but with the ability to select the front lifter feature. There is not the huge suspension performance difference now that was previously present depending on which suspension you chose for the earlier SF90 models.
     
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  9. Edward 96GTS

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    btw, the Magnaride is a General Motors product. same as on new Corvette. its a great suspension system.
     
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  10. AlamoPoke

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    I received the same information about the Magnaride suspension on the XX was recalibrated to close the gap between the previous adjustable suspension/lifter and the Multimatic dampers. I’ve loved the Multimatic suspension setup on my SF90AF, but I went with the Magnaride and lifter option on the XX because I’m afraid that the extended front splitter will be difficult to manage on the street without the lift system.
     
  11. Fortis

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    Thank you, you are right I misread the comment, thank you for clarification.
     
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  12. Fortis

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    I have requested the marketing bulletin for the XX and there isn't a single mention about suspension, I find that very strange.
     

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  13. Caeruleus11

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    To elaborate, based on what I was told:

    They are not offering an "AF" pack on the XX car, but they are offering the two suspension choices.

    On the XX cars, we have the choice of a suspension with a lifter, and a suspension without a lifter. So this is how you choose.

    The suspension with the lifter is the Magnaride / "non-AF"/ suspension. It has been retuned as mentioned above, so it's more sporty than in the SF90 Stradale/Spider. They are recommending most people go for this option as it is still more sporty than the standard SF90, and it gives you the lifter for speed bumps/ road angles/ as noted, the front body work extends quite a bit from the wheels. You also get bumpy road mode with this suspension.

    The suspension without the lifter is the Multimatic / "AF type" from the SF90 Stradale/Spider. They say this is best for those who do mostly driving on super smooth roads/ tracks.

    I went with the lifter suspension.
     
  14. Cocoloco

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    #2740 Cocoloco, Oct 1, 2024
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    AFSpider bottomed out once over a speed bump, the front cleared but scraped minimal after wheels cleared - lifter would have done nothing.
    Detailer applies clear bra - one or two layers at high abuse areas - incl bottom and scrape guards.
    Normally pass on lifter but being free & add bumpy road option one would think AF suspension is much more expensive - it certainly was vs a lifter on the std SF90.
    Depends on your use case - personally love the AF pkg.
    I do wonder if XX on either sit at equal height -
     
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  15. Fortis

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    I don't want to give up the Multimatic AF suspension if I can help it but the dealer told me that only one kind is available for our market and that's the one with the lifter and bumpy road option none of which is necessary in a hardcore sports car.
     
  16. Cocoloco

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    Ferrari lightest seats ever, ordered and hope they didn't remove AF, It was offered at Atelier spec.
    Also tried to order plexiglass vs glass - which I think they also removed.
     
  17. Caeruleus11

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    Scraping will be a part of life if you really drive any sports car car hard. Scrape guards are a double edged sword because they effectively lower the body part in question- usually the front end. If your guards are adhered with any strength, there is a decent chance you can take your entire bumper off. Then your insurance could deny your claim. Ive seen it happen right in front of my eyes- the bumper being pulled off. The film is a good method- they also make thicker PPF now you can apply many layers. Scraping doesnt truly bother me, everyone has different approaches to this question. In the end, since they said they retuned the magnaride and that I am very happy with it on my spider, I figured, let’s have the bumpy road, the lifter, etc. No doubt the multimatic will give you another level of body control. I dont think seat choice makes a difference regarding the suspension choice.
     
  18. LMP

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    Totally agree with you scrape guards actually lower body part and definitely scrapes…my best method has been doubling up with ppf in that area and approaching entrances at a angle :) and no Valet guys lol
     
  19. Lukeylikey

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    Our XX just went into production. We have the magnaride suspension with lifter. We also still have an AF coupe and a standard spider. The AF is better on track and fast road but for me, the advantage is not enough to keep me out of the standard car where the lifter is sometimes vital and the bumpy road setting is crucial to render the car usable over many of the fun roads in the UK (and some you meet on road trips to Europe). The SF90 is a great car, regardless of the suspension. I’m hoping the XX is going to be a step on but really, it doesn’t need to be. I love the SF90. We’re due to go to Italy next week on a trip with friends. I can’t take the SF90 because it’s had a HVAC issue and is waiting for a part. I’m gutted (first world gutted - can’t be sad about driving a Roma Spider around Italy!)
     
  20. MonacoHedge

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    does that mean that if the hardware of the suspension is the same on SF90 and SF90 XX, that the magnaride dampers of the none XX cars could be "ecu" tuned to the upgraded XX ones? might be a great update for owners who opted for the lifer but want more sporty setup?
     
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  21. of2worlds

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    While not directly related; there was a retired Corvette suspension engineer who would retune to upgrade the older versions of the Chevrolet Mag-ride suspension for a fee. In theory it could be possible; going into the ecu. That would be some very 'specialized knowledge' that would come with a Ferrari size price tag...
     
  22. Cocoloco

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    #2748 Cocoloco, Oct 4, 2024
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    Point - XX seats are lightest ever produced and only offered on XX, "race car" theme XX, if I take off a bumper or scrape - oh well. Reality doesn't matter - it's about having fun with the brand. I prepare the cars as best I can to be driven. Usually install rubber stick on guards, dealer suggested the steel plates so I did it - won't do it again. Having other much lower cars you get used to "it" happens.

    Side note - just received Roma Spider and shocked how much fun the car is. Fact is bought a Dino Spider same day my Roma arrived to have a small fun spider. Ferrari is building some fun stuff and the XX was way past due - closest thing to the 355 Challenge.
     
  23. Caeruleus11

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    I love the balance of the Roma, a fun car to really drive hard. It’s a Ferrari after all. All I can say, unless they’ve changed their minds lol, they have allowed me to order the magnaride/ lifter/ suspension with the XX spider.

    Btw- a friend has the XX coupe and he raves about it, he says it just feels more involving and direct. He’s not the most descriptive, but hes super happy. Ferrari doesn’t disappoint.
     
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  24. Cocoloco

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    #2750 Cocoloco, Oct 5, 2024
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    Thanks - great information.
    Roma - shifts power steering and comfort, exhaust sounds really good too! It's surprisingly one heck of a Ferrari. Alloy with blue denim top Cuio silver stitching - excellent designed interior.
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