SF 90 XX

Again, this is not my window sticker and was posted to an SF90 group on FB. Ferrari has subsequently confirmed it’s incorrect and the features found on the XX are not included with the standard SF90. When I first posted this several days ago, it was before Ferrari’s response and I was simply asking others here if there was any truth to items on the XX also being found among the standard features of the 2025 SF90.

Thankfully for XX owners we don’t have to worry about this being an issue. Surely, the successor to the SF90 platform will have many features and enhancements superior to the current car. We all understand the nature of how things work…

 

This is your post below - stating 2025SF90 Spider which they are still producing.
You state - Ferrari turned it into an XX version for 2025. What am I missing - wise one?


"Claims are being made that the standard 2025 SF90 has the upgraded horsepower and engine parts in the XX, along with carbon fiber dash and doors, and tubular frame seats. If true, this is basically the same car as the XX (minus some exterior tweaks, rear wing and a minuscule weight savings) for half the money. Can someone with actual knowledge please confirm? I’ve seen a 2025 window sticker, but am not clear whether it’s legit. But, it does show the aforementioned items as standard for the regular SF90. If true, this won’t be good for XX values at all."

Now if you think the above makes any sense - let alone you confirming it with Ferrari - you enjoy that short lil bus to work.
More than just myself, have posted it's expected for next gen to receive last gen improvements. It's ok Glenn but you seem to know a lot about mental incapacity and still have no idea what "hill" I got stuck on. Let's agree to end it, would be fun if you were actually showing some humor. Life is not that miserable on a Ferrari forum. Let it go.

 

Again, allow me to help you in the same way I do with my 5th graders language arts homework:

The “claims” being made came as a result of the window sticker that was posted. I think it’s clear, I wasn’t the one making the claims. Rather, it’s pretty obvious with an XX coming that my concern was with the prospect that many of the features had become standard on the SF90…as shown on the sticker.

As your dubious history here has shown, you became the lone individual unable to reconcile my post and responded in your unique code. Again, no hill to die on here, which is surely disappointing to you. I have no desire to compete with your two functions brain cells for third place. So, you’re welcome to continue this journey solo

 

Any chance you guys could put your little skirmish to bed? I’m down for an internet dustup as much as the next guy, but this one might be past its born in date. As a suggestion, maybe you guys post up your inbound XX renders/specs and share with us what you are most excited about? Expected delivery date? First trip or track date? You know…car enthusiast type stuff.

 

Impressed you were able to father a child.
I could care less what your concerns are - they sell products for that is the ladies aisle.

 

I would delete that post. You’ll probably receive a site ban and it would be warranted. Trading barbs is one thing, going after kids is quite another.

 

Everyone here knows by now who he is and what he’s about. He edited his comment because he’s been parked by mods before and likely runs the risk of a permanent ban. He’ll soon be on to the next inane argument turned personal. That’s his M.O.

 

Nothing to do with his kids.
Fact. Can't handle the kitchen - that's rich as you post memes to insult others.
You berated me over my sale of 76LT Spider for multiple posts - until you realized that you were wrong and the cars door opening on a Spider was less than comfortable for a tall person. I am sure you recall and apologized after multiple attacks I was a "fake" LT owner when in fact it was the 000 factory provided LT shown in Monterey, But do you. - play a different card in someone else's hand.
It was a joke.

 

Oh, I can certainly handle it just fine. It was another member here who suggested that your comment was in poor taste and may run afoul with mods. But, that’s never bothered you before. As for memes, I’m anxious for you to share some that I’ve allegedly posted. This should be good…I’m waiting.

 

OMG Dude. I didn't say you - Cadster meme.
Move on - I have a life outside this - you should too,

 

Not surprising you’ve now directed your toxic behavior toward yet another member. If indeed you have a life outside of unnecessarily engaging people here, you’re certainly not doing a good job of showing it. Here’s an opportunity to prove us wrong…

 

Second @Thecadster's suggestion. @Glenn Quagmire and @Cocoloco, please drop it. Perhaps you should each mute the other.

 

Indeed. The unfortunate part is that one creates a post that may be of interest to the group, but somehow triggers to an individual to generate responses taken to a personal level. It’s a shame that there’s not more awareness from some that with Ferrari’s in the garage, you’ve somehow made it in life…and a forum like this is intended to be informational and not confrontational.

 

Who cares what others think or say , engage with those who show respect and block the ones that don’t It’s a shame some have made it in life one way but not in other ways!

 

I will join SF90 group on FB
You can then get some insight by my FB or Ig and actually know you are talking to - after all it is a small world.
Trying to leave today for Cavallino breakers - unfortunately may not.
Hopefully we know common people and will learn who we are -
LMP appears to pile on and that's fine. Perhaps we can meet at Ferrari Florida event - enjoy regional drives across Florida. Live in Midwest and also like regional drives, add Monetary drives and so on
Look forward to ending bs. Your choice

 

Went on Fb SF90 -
I just thought - why not share what the post caused on FB no intention to insult - irony

Pat Ander
I’m curious what part of your brain thought it would be funny to create a post using an XX window sticker to claim Ferrari changed the engine HP for regular SF90’s? Are you unaware that there are differences in standard features of these two cars clearly listed? Or was it your hope nobody would check you? Regardless, you’ve been outed. **ADMIN this entire post should be deleted as it’s intentional misinformation**

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Interesting. The partial window sticker that was posted showed a 2025 SF90 Spider base price of $572K. My 2024 SF90 Spider has a base price of $570,445. Does the Facebook user think the 2025 SF90 Spider XX has a $572K base?

I understand that Facebook is the authority on most subjects.

Asking for a friend…….

 

That was among the very questions I asked, along with whether he believed Ferrari would thrown in the additional HP, ABS EVO brakes, carbon dash, carbon doors and best weight seats at no cost? It’s not clear if he doctored the sticker himself or if it was actually incorrectly produced by Ferrari.

 

We took delivery of our XX Spider late last week. Since it’s cold here in the UK and I haven’t had too much opportunity to drive the car, I can’t give a definitive opinion about what it’s like to drive in anger. However, there are some initial observations I thought I might make.

Firstly, it’s a beautiful piece of engineering. The aero looks well integrated and really good. It makes the car stand out from even the standard SF90 and makes you feel like you’re driving something quite special. It’s maybe not classically beautiful but it has tremendous presence and real aggression. In the Le Mans livery of our car it is like an attention magnet - not really something I crave and something to think about in terms of when to use the car. I don’t think that applies to just our XX. They will all just be so attention-grabbing, owners should be aware. I love the look of the car and it was a big hit with our large family, especially the females, which was a little surprising. They really loved it and two said it was their favourite from all our cars, though that may have had something to do with the livery combining with the dramatic looks.

The interior is a great place to be with the alcantara dashboard and carbon door trims, complete with open slats mimicking the slats over all the wheel arches. Having not driven our standard car for a while I realised something about the SF90 platform that was made more prominent because of recent spells driving some of our other cars such as our Roma Spider. The SF90 driving position is fantastic. One of the best of any Ferrari and it actually makes quite a difference. Slotting into the driver seat of the XX, it felt familiar - in a good way - with a twist - also in a good way. It’s like Speciale to 458 or Pista to 488. It’s most definitely not as extreme as the other XXs, but then it’s a road car much more than they are.

Driving impressions are very limited except to say everything feels as it should, suspension is comfortable and stable with very little roll. Not much to say about the engine because I have hardly touched the throttle. The noise is definitely more than the standard car from inside - a gruff, exhaust-driven, baritone note like the Speciale and Pista and more aggressive than the standard cars. At slow speed, low-energy driving, there is not too much to identify the car separately from the non XX car. I think there will be more that’s noticeable under higher throttle and suspension loads but if the early signs are indicative, the XX will be (unsurprisingly) like a Pista version of the SF90. Is that bad? As a concept, no. In fact it’s a perfectly acceptable idea, given the SF90 itself is such a beast of a car. It’s the SF90 with chilli sauce. Maybe where there is some contention is with the use of the XX name, which many journalists have pointed out. Nobody should reasonably expect this car to feel like an XX - it’s a road car! But perhaps XX Stradale might lead you to think it should be a bit more than the SF90’s Pista. As I’ve said, I can’t draw any firm conclusions because I’ve only really experienced wet and sport modes at about 2 degrees.

Overall, a very, very special car. But its main trick is that it’s based on the already brilliant SF90. Put it this way, is it worth multiples of a used SF90? Not objectively, but perhaps subjectively - rarity, wanting the best experience this platform can deliver, outrageous looks. It’s drama all the way. I hope when the weather warms up, the drama is justified by the 8+/10ths driving experience, but so far, I can’t tell if that will be the case.

 

Congratulations!

 

Congrats @Lukeylikey! Great writeup. Bet you're looking forward to spring so you can really enjoy it!

 

Enjoyed reading your initial impressions. I have to imagine it does draw a lot of attention. Have fun with it and let us know when you get more seat time.

 

Thank you so much for this teaser overview. My XX is “on the boat” where it’s been for about a month and I anticipate/hope to have it here in the next six to eight weeks. It’s refreshing to see an actual owner’s driving report as opposed to the discussions of depreciation, exclusivity, availability and other non-driving related topics that seem to dominate online discussion.

 

Don't want to reopen old wounds but I have seen with my own eyes the window sticker of a 2025 SF90 Spider and it does show the 1015 HP.

I think it's a printing mistake honestly. That would be a collector window sticker.

Cheers

 

Indeed. I have a screenshot between my dealer GM and Ferrari tech team stating “…System error, we are checking into it. HP data is wrong. No HP improvement for SF90 2025.” Perhaps you’ve seen the same window sticker I’ve previously posted? Or, maybe it’s a broader system error affecting multiple window stickers?

This is the reason I brought it to the attention of the group.