SF 90 XX

You will love it. Car is very safe when going sideways. Suspension setup is very friendly and safe to slide
Been tracking more than 10 years, I don’t remember. I steped down from grip driving and turned to dark side lol
Drifting when done properly without handbrake nonsense is the new drug


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Oversteer is not push. You must mean understeer.

 

Ah, ya…..

 

Finally they took my advices, this new re-designed version is realy beautiful, i can't believe myself, did they hire a new head designer??? the old ugly tail ights are gone!! And the new taillight (that unique thin line) is REALLY beautiful. love it .

 

And of course you asked the owner for permission to use that picture and post it with such story online

 

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Beautiful!

 

I am not a fan of the rear tail lights..... from the rear... that could be any car... especially looks like a porsche ... but LOVE the rest of the car. I wish the rear had some historic relationship (round lights)

 

I agree the light bar is not unique to Ferrari. But then again, the round lights back in the 50s-60s were not unique to Ferrari either.

If it helps, the light bar is a feature on the Icona cars, and more importantly, on the LeMans winning 499P

Have you noticed there is no Cavallino Rampante on the posteriore?


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Yes, and I wish there was one!

 

I like the rear a lot... except for the wing. The light bar is Testarossesque.

The front is worse than in the normal one, and I already was not a fan of it either.

 

Personally I do not like the location of the exhausts and the plate.
Maybe my mind will change when I see her in real life

 

For the record, the 458C can be set up for understeer, oversteer, soft, stiff, whatever the driver, circuit and conditions demand. It's a race car - swapping springs & shocks, adjusting ride height and tire pressures, changing alignment and dialing in (or out) rear wing allow you tailor the car to the circumstances.

Back on topic, personally, on the SF90 I'd prefer if it had a bumpy road setting but I haven't found the need for it with the AF suspension. The car's quite comfortable to drive.

 

it is really beautiful. subtle interior changes are great, too - like the more tactile wheel from the purosangue and the digital rear-view mirror etc.

 

it is really comfortable. a year and a half ago whe ni picked it up on a cold, rainy winter day here in seattle, my 16 y/o co-pilot nephew mentioned how stunningly soft it felt

but better proof still is that my wife has fallen asleep in the passenger seat just dawdling down the highway in hybrid mode.

the standard sf90 is really easy to drive and very friendly, approachable, fun and playful. i dont think the xx will end up being as terrifying as the f12tdf, but i think it'll probably be a bit nastier than the standard sf90.

 

I agree but atleast this light bar is much better than the tail lights of the original SF90 (which was ugly like hell).
But the question is, why they suddenly changed the original tail light of SF90. Did they fire Manzoni?

 

A really curious fact is that before, in the images on the Ferrari website placed shortly after the launch, there was the Cavallino Rampante in the back (much better).

In the current images, they took it out.

On page 63 of this thread, there is a post of an image from the Ferrari website with the Cavallino. Compare with now.

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The figure of 530kg is interesting. With the Senna and GT3 RS at circa 800kg, and this being a car with the XX name, I’m wondering why they didn’t go for more extreme aero?

Could be because this would require a much larger rear wing and they just didn’t fancy that. Or, with the extra hybrid weight, the downforce on the tyres is already similar (about 200-250kg hybrid weight) plus the fact that higher aero downforce requires significantly harder suspension and they seem to want to avoid that. The extra hybrid weight pays for itself in terms of forward thrust. Leaving mainly the braking as the big issue with the hybrid weight. Interestingly they seem to have developed a new braking solution. So, 530kg is the figure because it is right for the car or should we see it as a less aggressive car than Senna or GT3 RS?

 

I was discussing it again this weekend at Monza with a former Ferrari F1 driver. The enemy of this kind of car is weight, and the Senna in this exercise is without equal. It really proves itself on the circuit where the braking is well beyond exceptional.
We turned on the Paul Ricard with it, and no other registered car allows you to brake so late, so regularly.
An SF 90 XX is very very far from a circuit car...and even an FXX-K too. He told me that when you start braking in K with a car type 488 GTE, you have just increased another gear ratio !!!

 

The more days pass and my initial thoughts are still the same.. this is a pointless car, master of no street or track and priced and built for Wall Street. First VS invited to that I want to decline, just trying to find a solution to my deposit and keep everybody happy. Still think this Wall Street project enhances the Assetto Fiorano SF90, should have left it at that and abandoned this 15 cars by 20.. nonsense. Thank God F167 is coming..

 

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Extremely well spotted !!

 

The clue is in the name. I don’t think the intention is for this to be a 99% circuit car - they know most owners will use the car heavily on the road, even the most aggressive owners will be 80/20 road to track except for maybe some outliers. The main thing is whether the car feels nice and balanced on track and is fast - can you have fun in it and does its outright speed justify its name. From experience of the SF90 AF I think it will be both those things. The Senna also is not like a 488 Challenge, but maybe it is closer, even if it is not faster around the track (which it won’t be IMV).

For me the slightly odd thing about this car is the name though. If I enjoy the standard car on road and track, this will be better, I’m sure of it. But I’m not really sure it is an XX car, hence my original point. 530kg is aggressive but not up with even a GT3 RS. They could have done it, so I’m wondering what their reasoning is for not doing it.

I think I will end up discovering this is the ultimate performance expression - whether road or track - of an SF90, a car I already think is brilliant for various reasons. There’s no real point comparing it to a Senna except maybe for lap times, they both coexist and do things differently. My guess is that the XX will cover more bases than the Senna which is not the best street car (though still a real occasion when you do, even if it’s a lot of effort). The Senna on the other hand, is what the great man himself would be familiar with, simple drive gear, lots of aero. (Oddly, I’m not sure he would choose it between the two, he only cared about lap time and trusted his insane driving ability to overcome how it felt - if it was quicker, he wanted it).

 

This has been the case since a very long time that all of Ferrari's "Special Cars" have very much been road cards first with trickery from the track and not track cars with road bits added. Also we should not read too much into the name, its as much marketing as meaning, I mean how much of a GTO was the 599 GTO (a car I love but not with Rose tinted or should I say Rossa Corsa tinted Glasses on )