Sf90 resale prices?!

Absolutely they will available for $400k. I think the car is great, but generally the car just isn’t a beloved model, the looks, particularly from the rear, are very polarizing and they were way too expensive to begin with (same issue with 296s). Not sure how long a ferrari can keep boasting of making €170k per car or whatever the number is and have clients keep buying. I think buyers that paid over $800k for SF90s and are down $300k for a virtually undriven car will think twice about the next car. There are over 300 SF90s for sale, at $400,000 they are still twice the price of a 911 Turbo. There is also the worry about the batteries. Hands up who wants to own this car in 10 years time.

 

Don’t disagree.

 

Is that the cheapest?

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I think Ferrari eventually did very well about the battery problem. I was very concerned from day 1 about it : I must have been the only stupid guy some 10 years ago who refused a laferrari allocation because I didn't want to hear anything about batteries.

Yes. I know.

One year ago, during the F40 legacy tour, I had dinner next to the head of after sales/Classiche department. He made very clear that their main concern is that all ferrari cars built since the 50's should be able to be driven in the future. Whatever happens.

Hence their deep interest in synthetic fuel, etc.

He pointed out that one of the objectives of the newly built battery factory in Maranello is to be able in the future to Retrofit future battery technologies in nowadays car. That includes laferrari, but also SF90s or even 296s.

This means that whatever the new battery technologies, actual cars will benefit from them. I think that is a very new, smart and welcome move. It was necessary.

On the top of it, they do realize that no one wants to pay hundreds of thousand dollars for new batteries. Hence their new warranty program that includes batteries (7 years from new, then included in optional extension program).

I was explained this almost one year ago, the warranty program became official some weeks ago.

Having a SF90 in my garage and awaiting a XX, I sleep better now.

 

Haha. I was emailed that yesterday by the dealer. That car has an MSRP just $700,000.

 

I looked at buying that one when it was at Porsche of Woodland Hills. and then again when it was auctioned by pcar. Very classy spec.

 

car will not have a warranty unless you purchase from dealer?

 

Anybody here is afraid of depreciation nightmare for 296 and SP90?

 

It's crazy that F8 and 296 pricing has converged. It's even crazier that SF90 coupe pricing is seemingly headed there.

Longer term, I think SF90 pricing will stabilize, if only because production numbers are relatively low. There's so many on the market right now so prices will continue dropping near-term while inventory is high, but it's too good of a car and the performance is too compelling for it to fall that much further - this won't be a $300k car.

 

I think it will stabilize around 400k for coupe and 500k for spider. Although Lambo Revuelto is slower for 0.1 seconds in 0-100, its NA V12 scream, carbon fiber tub, and relatively small battery park really outshines the SF90.

 

Lamborghini Revuelto v Ferrari 296 & SF90: DRAG RACE (youtube.com)
It's far slower than the SF90 in the real world, and far slower around a track due to the 400lbs extra weight. Plus, the quality issues of the Rev are horrendous. It's like Lambo's version of the Artura. It does sound better, though!

 

To be fair, the Rev won best 2 out of 3 drag races vs the 296. But spanked at rolls. I don’t think the Rev is all that good looking and certainly not for the $

 

Dust - You're absolutely correct. However, it should beat the 296 in a drag race, since it's 1k HP AWD car vs a 820hp RWD car. But I was speaking about the comparison to the SF90, where it just gets crushed. Even with two people in the SF90, the Rev gets beaten very badly each race. Also, when you look at the lap times for the SF90, it still holds production car lap records on a few tracks. It's an absolute performance beast. All of this just reminds me how good the SF90 really is, especially being a 5-year-old platform. It really gives me a true appreciation of how fortunate we are to own one.

Ferrari SF90 Stradale specs, 0-60, quarter mile, lap times - FastestLaps.com

 

All true.

 

I have an SF90 and was able to drive the Revuelto last week. General impressions: Great sound on acceleration but had a irritating drone in the cabin, seemed a bit slower than the SF, but marginally so. The SF90 feels more "refined" but that's more about the Lambo design ethos than anything else ... build quality was OK. Side profile of the evokes a visions of a corvette.

I think these cars prices will stabilize / increase when interest rates go down and the uncertainty of the election, economy, etc. is resolved. A significant proportion of these higher end cars are purchased with some amount of financing. 10% is a tough pill to swallow. A lot of people are just sitting on the sidelines except those at the very highest tier of car ownership (not me). I got mine for just under $500k on a $700l spec. I feel pretty good about that from a future depreciation perspective and Ferrari is doing some things make sure they don't take a deep dive.

 

Oh, what quality issue did you hear on the big R? I find my STO build quality quite more reliable than the 812 GTS. At the very least, I don't need to plug in the battery tender for STO and worry about anything. I have to a portable stand by jump start battery in the GTS trunk, just in case. Did we talk about paint quality yet?

 

I’ve heard nothing negative about STOs. Only the Rev. I know that some people are getting their cars replaced by Lambo due to issues that don’t seem to be fixable, and because of that they’re keeping quiet.

I’ve had zero uses with my SF90, 296 and F8, and I get all of my cars paint-corrected, PPFd, and ceramic coated as soon as they arrive, so I’ve personally never dealt with paint issues.

 

I thought the same thing until I see it in person. It absolutely looks like a 700k car! Give it a try, dust. And now I can't wait for mine to arrive! Haven't been this excited for a very long time.

 

Got it. There was a delay with the launch due to the software issue. Is your friends car those preconfig one?

I was under the impression because of that big fire on the transport ship, they now request cars with battery to be uninstalled during transit.

Definitely will look into it further. Thanks for the info.

 

Yes, he has a preconfigured one.

 

I prefer the look of the aventador to the Rev. the Rev looks like you uploaded an aventador image into an ai program and told it to update the car to be more futuristic. The Aventador was ground breaking and even today inspires so much joy on the road.

 

Likewise!

 

SF90 has gotten an undeserved reputation as being "soul-less" but really, I'm not seeing it. It's far exceeded any expectations I could have had in terms of driving experience and "soul" relative to my 458. The only loss is engine sound - it's maybe a bit quieter and more generic than 458, but part of that is the particulate filter.

Revuelto seems like it'll be louder, both visually and acoustically, but I'm sure it'll be great overall, especially after they get through these initial build quality questions.

 

Saw two when they came out at a private car show. Really didn’t like the exterior but had grown on me a bit. Haven’t driven.

 

I had a 458 and put 15k miles in it before I got into a 812gts. It's not that damn filter. It's the characteristic of a turbo vs NA. It's the tune of the song vs the volume of the song.