Office 2 miles from home add gym etc 25 miles avg per. Losing 5-8k per month on a high end daily is normal - might as well drive a Ferrari, exceptions Puro made $
good for you. i shift a lot of the miles onto the porsche but i manage 2-3 days a week in the exotics. i would love to daily
Odd I thought dealers couldn't sell cars for below MSRP? Unless this is a used car with delivery miles.
Keep in mind, dealers can give an over allowance on the trade, which is effectively the equivalent of a discount on the new vehicle. That’s one of the workarounds for restrictions on discounts.
Is there a difference in buying a car under warranty from an official dealership or someone like ilusso? Should I be worried about it not being at an official Ferrari dealer?
Here is review from someone who has Laferrari, Speciale, F40, F50, SVJ, Diablo 6.0, and bunch of insane cars and his thoughts on SF90: A lot of people are put off by hybrids, many never tried. I am on my 4th Hybrid super car. 17, 19 NSX, 22 NSX Type S, and now SF90. When I had NSX people are always puzzled by why I picked NSX. The NSX only had 2 flaws, not enough rolling acceleration power, and transmission is a bit slow for my liking, especially on down shifts. SF90 is very similar to NSX, but has better electric range, exponentially better hybrid system, far better responds, better transmisson, loads more power. Thanks to the price drop I was able to pick one up and replaced the F8 (which was awesome car). SF90 at these prices are amazing. A decent spec Temerario is around $500K~$550k and it looks like a junior car where SF90 has Aventador type of road presence imo. I really enjoyed the SF90 so far. In terms of speed and responds, it is 10/10. I will never need more and only for the second time a car actually made me felt I don't need any more straightline speed nor responds (speed is easy, just need to modded it, instant responds is hard or impossible in many cars regardless amount of money spent). I got used to haptic control in a day or two, it is totally fine, easy to use. Prior of daily driving the SF90, only undertanding of haptic controls from reading and youtube is that it is horrible. Turned out to be extreme over extraggeration. Sound wise, I am neutral, I hate the valves in SF90, it is far worse than the valves in F8, reminds me of on/off nature of my previous 488 (I disabled the valves in 488 via golf tee). I wish there is simple valve solution for SF90 like my 992 Turbo S where you can simply just upload a tune via OBDII port and keep the valve always open and have different exhaust note profile between driving modes. In 992 Turbo S with oem sport exhaust. Sport mode has perfect amount of overrun (pop and burbles), sport plus absolutely no overrun (no pops and burbles what so ever).
I would say a stradale in the $400-$450 range is great value, but the spiders which are more in the $650-$700 range still have a lot of room to come down.
The spreads on the f8's and 296's, seems about half as to the sf90's between spider and non spider. But I am just skimming at listings, so I might be off by a good amount.
Agree with everything that he said It is such a great car and they are bottoming out I believe…. It’s the best car on the market and I’m sure the replacement coming this year isn’t going to be any cheaper… I think prices will go up eventually, it’s just too much car
Really? The cheapest 2024 Turbo S coupe I've seen is $260k. I feel like I could buy one at MSRP and drive it for a year and put more miles on it while taking a much smaller haircut than buying an SF90 right now. Seems like prices are still falling quite a bit.
I feel like they will hit the mid to high 300s before bottoming out. A few weeks ago when I posted there were multiple in the low $400s and they're not moving at all.
I have changed my search to a Stradale, meanwhile I will wait and see where spider prices end up. Even though cars have been sitting for many months, dealers do not seem motivated to move much. The ones getting reduced to where market really is are either low specs or high milage. I am curious how much Ferrari is subsidizing dealer carry costs to make it make sense for them to hold these cars instead of reduce. I understand listing prices staying high, but I was expecting them to reduce more if they had a bird in hand.
At some point, if you really want to be in a recent mid engine Ferrari, you'll realize just how good these cars are and pull the trigger. As has been the case over the years, critics initially come out and skewer the latest thing, only to come back a few years later as fans. I vividly recall this being the case with the La Ferrari. Looks are always subjective and certainly drive buying decisions. It's why I won't ever buy a 911 or mid engine Lamborghini. But, because I don't care for the looks, doesn't mean I'm going to claim the cars are junk or aren't worth the price. Now that we're firmly in the hybrid era and (probably) not turning back, does it mean that super cars will no longer appeal to buyers? Eventually, unless you're only interested in older technology, you'll be forced to adapt to the hybrid platforms from all of the competitive brands. My SF90 spider and 296 GTS have been amazing cars. Would I prefer neither were hybrid? Yes. But, so long as I choose to buy new Ferrari's I have to accept what is offered. Just as my end of the run 812 GTS is more than $100K cheaper than my 12 Cilindri spider order, the replacement for the SF90 will undoubtedly be significantly more expensive...while still being hybrid. So, given how good the SF90 is, I expect the market will firm up. Hell, my Pista spider is worth far more than my SF90 spider and approaching the $1M mark, making it unattainable for even the majority of Ferrari buyers. So, soon we'll reach a point where buyers are fighting over 10+ year old ICE cars or embracing newer tech and realizing just how good the SF90 and 296 platforms are.
I completely agree with you, but I think there is more to the 296/sf90 pricing reductions than them just being hybrids. I think Ferrari miscalculated, they produced too many SF90s.The 296 which a lot say is the better car, stole a lot of SF90 pre-owned sales. Both cars should have either been priced cheaper from the start, or the SF90 should have been more limited. The Ferrari politics of having to get a Roma, to get a gtb to then be able to get a gts, was also flawed. It created a glut in the market across all categories, and most likely left a bad taste for all the Ferrari owners that are new to the brand.
