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Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by udalmia, Mar 15, 2004.

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  1. udalmia

    udalmia Guest

    no offense to you or your son but I think it would depend a lot on maturity and trust, its judgemental to call someone "nuts" without that information :)
     
  2. Diablo

    Diablo Formula Junior

    Very true. But it does depend on the family.

    I do know of one that got their son a 355 on a saturday at 11:00.
    It was then towed back to the body shop at 4:30 with front and rear damage(Nasty spin and a guard rail).
    I guess the kid couldn't handle the power.
     
  3. charliek

    charliek Karting

    Nov 9, 2003
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    I am sorry, but I have heard the "my kid is responsible" Yada, yada, maybe so,
    but what you are not is experienced. A 360 is a powerful machine easily pushed beyond the limits of a driver who does not have the skill, judgment and instincts to handle it. Any 19 yo that tells me that they will drive that car with their 19 yo friends in it like a VW Beetle is full of it. Your dad would be risking not just his car but your life and anyone else in your way. I have seen and heard of way too many young drivers cut down early in life because a powerful weapon was placed in their hands before they were ready. I am not judging you personally, but there are statistics that support what I am saying about your age group as drivers. I would be willing to bet that most, if not all of the Ferrari chatters out there would not want their college son or daughter in that passenger seat when you have that car at school and decide to take it for a midnight drive down the Indiana backroads. My son is a 4.0 student at Brown University and responsible, but not experienced, and that is why he will not drive my high performance cars, yet.
     
  4. zjpj

    zjpj F1 Veteran

    Nov 4, 2003
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    No no, don't take it to school. Drive it as much as you can when you are at home, but college students are not nice about this stuff for some reason. Trust me. It will be keyed, dented, and draw LOTS of unwatned attention. Not the good kind of attention. College towns and kids with nice cars do not go well together. I speak from personal experience.

    Edit: as for a 19 year old driving - just be safe. Nobody here knows how good of a driver you are. There are many professional race car drivers who are in their early twenties, so I think it's ridiculous for people to assume you "can't handle it." Rubbish. If you are uncomfortable at all, go with an experienced driver in your passenger seat. Who are we to tell you what you can and can't drive? And what better way to learn how to handle the power? Just don't take it to campus, seriously.
     
  5. udalmia

    udalmia Guest

    advice well taken charlie,i understand what you mean

    agree with your perspective zipj, guss its time to use those frequent flyer miles :)
     
  6. charliek

    charliek Karting

    Nov 9, 2003
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    udalmia, you do seem like a reasonable person. I do agree with zipj about driving the car with dad in the passenger seat. As far as there being race car drivers in their early twenties, there are also 15 yo porn stars but that is not the norm. I think you will also find that those drivers started when they were 11 yo and younger with karts etc. The non experienced, show off 19 yo is the norm.Also, racing and driving on public roads is a different story.The stats still support what I am saying. again, zipj would you want your teenage daughter in that passenger seat of the non race car, 360 driving 19 yo , if you would, maybe you should pose that question to mom. That is just the opinion of one dad that worries about all the kids out there on the roads..
     
  7. Pakan

    Pakan Rookie

    Mar 16, 2004
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    well congratulations! the spider is so freckin nice to drive with the top off. its really a piece of work. i own 1 myself, but '01. perhaps you can gsend me some pics of it when you find your camera. what colour is it btw? mine's red. colour of choice. may the force be with you and the paperwork gets done / pak
     
  8. W00dEar

    W00dEar F1 Rookie
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    Feb 24, 2004
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    Hehe, it depends on how much money a person has.
    You see, spending 250k on a F360 spider for some super rich guy, is like you or me go to Old Navy and buy a sweat pants for $9.99. Will you give a damn who you lend your ten dollar sweat pants to? :)

    I agree his fater is nuts, IF 250k is alot of money for him and it is dream come true for him to buy that Modena. However from how it was described, I highly doubt that was the case. So let the lucky people deal with their own dilema :)
     
  9. mighty

    mighty Karting

    Nov 2, 2003
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    You have one crazy dad, thats for sure.
     
  10. mighty

    mighty Karting

    Nov 2, 2003
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    Finally someone said something right
     
  11. alanhenson

    alanhenson Formula 3

    Dec 2, 2003
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    What exactly did you do to earn this car? Gold medal in the olympics? Med school scholorship? Rhodes Scholar? Not likely. Take my advice. I am a self made Ferrari driving guy. As are most of the guys on this site. I have seen many rich kids become losers because daddy just gave and gave. It sets you up for failure because it places completely unrealistic expectations on your successes that you have had so far. You make good gradess so Daddy buys an escalade. You get exceptedto college and Daddy buys a Ferrari. This is not real life. No one gives anything to you once you are on your own. You probably can't imagine the kind of work it took him to be able to buy that for you. Best of luck though. Just keep it in perspective. Oh yeah, wicked Ferrari. Enjoy.

    PS. If my dad gave me one. I would have taken it and loved every minute of it. Take it to college, put it in a garage or cover it and get all the poon you can.
     
  12. Tyler

    Tyler F1 Rookie

    Dec 19, 2001
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    Beautiful car! Can't wait for the high-res pics.

    Enjoy the car and drive it often. While it would be wise to not take it campus, it's not unreasonable to want it in your college town. A good friend in college with me kept his new Porsche Turbo in a storage facility and very few people in town new about it. We used to use it for weekend blasts to a larger town.

    Congrats!
     
  13. udalmia

    udalmia Guest

    I got the pics taken , theyre over a meg each though, does anyone know where i can host them , 10-12 megs in total

    On another note, I think its very judgemental of some people to call me/my dad nuts.. We just moved to America, it is a time for us where we accomplish many of the dreams we have fostered owning a beautiful home and a beautiful car.. It has been my dream since i was 9 years old to drive a ferrari.. For my dad it represents a step in his business career.. No its not a cheap car for us and it is a sizeable investment.. its the fulfillment of a dream.. I am not saying it is my car.. The only reason i want to take the car to college would be to drive it, something my father knows I have been dreaming of for 11 years now.. Is wanting to fulfill that dream nuts? I am responsible enough not to take the car until i learn it, and that I shall, but I find it very discouraging/disappointing to read some of the messages on this board.. Please dont judge people without knowledge

    PS. I am not taking it to college, I was merely pondering the idea, my father trusts me to make the best judgement, it would not be my primary driver there, I have a beatup for that
     
  14. lotustt

    lotustt Formula 3

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    Good luck with the new car! Your very lucky to have it at your age. Enjoy it and have fun. Your pics do not need to be hosted anywhere. just upload them from your harddrive. But first size them smaller. I forget what it is for the site here, just click the attach button in your post and it will say there.
     
  15. udalmia

    udalmia Guest

    couldnt get outdoor pics with the snow, best i could do
     
  16. udalmia

    udalmia Guest

    TomF1, chucke, ghost, 360spider, tenlee, tifosi69, sjmst, red360stradale, noah, pakan, tyler thank you for the kind words
     
  17. noony

    noony F1 Veteran

    Nov 25, 2003
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    Nice, is it rosso corsa or rosso scuderia?
     
  18. charliek

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    I congratulate your father for his success in business that is great! I think money is a non issue here. I would make the same statment about an old Corvette or Mustang 5.0. The idea of you fulfilling your dream is nice , if your dream was to fly a jet fighter and dad could afford it does that make sense? There is a time in ones life to fulfill certain dreams , and no, not all dreams are realistic to fulfill.A teenager wants what he wants when he wants it there is no common sense to putting a new driver behind the wheel of a super high performance car. I believe it is suicide. Its like giving a kid a .38 and saying have fun. I do feel strongly about this because I am sick of reading the horror stories in my local paper about the kids killed, paralized etc. because dad bought them the car they wanted to make them happy. It is called being a responsible parent to say no when it is appropriate. You may be a good driver, you know how to accelerate and use the brakes etc., what you dont have is experience and the instinct to know what to do when you come into that exit ramp to quickly, when the ground is wet and 3 people cross in front of you or the millions of other situations that arise on the roads. It is knowing that the lunatic next to you is going to cut you off because you sense it, you can tell by the way he is looking or moving, or whatever it is that tips you off. This comes from having seen it a thousand times not from playing video games to tune your hand to eye coordination. IMO anyone out there that feels it is cool to be 19 and have a 400 HP car at your disposal does not have kids at home, or shouldnt. Enough said
     
  19. Ira Schwartz

    Ira Schwartz Formula 3
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    My opinion, for whatever it's worth- hope you and your dad enjoy the car and use it well. Hell, I went to prep school with guys who got new XKEs and Corvettes for their 16th birthday- some turned out to be royal screw-ups, while others have wonderful values. Having said that, I'm glad you're leaving the car at home- there's no point in dredging up the resentment of your peers, and it'll be tough to store and maintain it properly away from home, so why not keep it in reserve for your trips home?
     
  20. charliek

    charliek Karting

    Nov 9, 2003
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    And some probably didnt live to be either one. Values arent the issue either, Im talkin life and limb. My receptionist's husband totalled 3 e-types as a kid and considers himself very lucky to be alive. I think some of you people are more worried about the car than the driver. I dont give a crap about the car. Last post I promise. I think I am wasting my breath here anyway. So it goes.
     
  21. Ira Schwartz

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    I understand, Charlie. I'm a father and grandfather, so I'm not immune to your concerns, but I'm not totally convinced that age is inextricably linked to maturity and/or driving ability. I'll concede that kids tend to be involved in a vastly disproportionate amount of crashes, but I'm hesitant to write this kid off without the benefit of having met him. Maybe if I hadn't survived my many youthful indiscretions unscathed I'd feel differently, but . . .
     
  22. charliek

    charliek Karting

    Nov 9, 2003
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    Charles Krop
    Ira,
    I am not writing this kid off either, thats exactly what I dont want to happen. I am sure he is a great kid, but that is what he is a kid.I am not 100% convinced age is inexticably linked to maturity and driving ability. I am 99% sure though. After 1-2 years driving experience i dont have to meet him to know he doesnt have that experience. I am sure he is a normal kid and believe just like those hormones rage for the girls it will be difficult for him to resist pushing that car. Especially when a girl or buddy gets in next to him and says "show me what this thing can do".. Would you want that person to be your grandaughter or would you pull her out of the car even after you see what a fine young man this is? My daughter is out, trust me. I have been there too and am lucky to have survived it. But who wants to depend on luck?Did you hear of the hockey player that crashed his 360 last year(Dan Heately)? He was 21 and survived, his buddy(Dan Shneider)wasnt so lucky.
     
  23. udalmia

    udalmia Guest

    It's Corsa Red
     
  24. reggi914

    reggi914 Rookie

    Mar 12, 2004
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    Very nice car you got there. I also think that it all depends on the childs maturity. I have driven ferrari's, porsches, vipers, bmw's, lamborghinis and pretty much every other exotic and i am still alive, i am also 18 yrs old. I am happy you are not taking the car to college, kids can get very jelous and do horrible things to your new piece of art.
     
  25. udalmia

    udalmia Guest

    Thank You, Advice well taken :). We look forward to meeting the tristate crew on the runs
     

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