I like the idea of a shifer gate lock, but had the bad experience with the Ultimate Pedals one. However, manufacturers do improve their products. Yesterday, I was in Omaha and tomorrow I will be in Boston. In Omaha a locksmith was doing some work for me and did a poor job. The second locksmith did an outstanding job. Watching him work and talking to him, I realizied he was honest and knew more about locks than anyone else I had talked to. So I asked him about shifter locks. He said that laundrymats had constant problems with people picking their tublar locks. Most tublar locks can be picked in a few minutes by someone who knows what they are doing. However, some tublar locks are next to impossible to pick. Some of the better ones have things like mushroom pins. In about a month or two will be ready to buy another shifter gate lock. What I would like to do is have the corporation buy one of every shifter gate lock on the market. Have these bought through a third party so that the manufacturers do not know I am buying them. Then send them to the locksmith in Omaha. On inspection, if he thinks they are junk, then end the test there. If unsure and since most thiefs will not spend more than 10 minutes trying to pick a lock, then have the corporation pay the locksmith for up to 30 minutes of time trying to pick the lock on each shifter gate lock that passes the first inspection. Then I will keep the one rated the best and return the ones rated not-best. Would like the manufacturers to agree to refund the purchase price less their shipping costs for the ones rated not-best. This is in case they do not have a return policy. Manufacturers please post to ferrarichat if this is acceptable or not. After the tests, the manufacturers will first be notified of the results and the person who did the tests. This will give them time to offer a rebuttal or make plans to improve their products. After a reasonable amount of time, I will post the results on ferrarichat. Ferrarichat members: if you know of a shifter gate lock that we should consider, please post their contact information here. Thanks.