Shotguns

The Mossberg would be your best bet.

 

My ex-BIL has that Mossberg, he loves the gun. Of course, he's only shot skeet with it, not people...

 

[Rule of thumb] Whichever has the least aluminum anything.

 

I would suggest the Saiga 12

http://www.raacfirearms.com/Saiga_12.htm

For those not familiar Saiga is a brand manufactured by Izhmash which is a major Russian arms manufacture. The Saiga-12 is basically a jumbo sized AK-47 in 12 gauge, it will shoot 2 3/4 & 3 inch shells. It's all steel construction except for plastic hand guard, butt stock and magazine. Magazine that comes with it is 5 round, there are a few outfits that make 10 round mags and 20 round drums. Dunno what the California legality might be on the 20 round drum but I'm guessing it's banned.

Got mine a couple weeks ago and took it to the range last weekend, shot through a few boxes of 2 3/4 inch 1oz slugs which were surprisingly mild. The 10 round mag is pretty damn big, probably not what you would want for home defense. The stock feels a little bit light to me but I plan on replacing it at some point so it doesn't bother me too much. Functionally it's like any other AK, simple and reliable. The barrel is threaded externally so it's easy to add a muzzle brake (I'm planning to get a Tromix) which will help reduce what recoil there is. They are rather popular right now which has driven up prices but you can find them for around $550.


Having said that, the Mossberg is a great piece and the basic Model 500 Persuader is a good deal at around $250.

 

1 vote for Mossberg, and i will add a plug for a winchester defender 1300. i have one that i hope i will never need, but it is there.

 

I've been looking the at the stainless models, not sure which one I'll end up with yet; Remington 870 Marine Magnum, the Winchester 1300 Stainless Marine, or the Mossberg 500 Mariner.

I'd like to get a shorty but I don't think they'll let me right now
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I should add a rule'o'thumb - should be able to handle magnum loads.

 

agree !! mossberg 500

 

I used to carry a Mossberg Mil-spec gun (9 shot, ghost rings, parkerized) when I bush-hogged. It had a tendency to vibrate the safety into the "on" position which was a problem when you'd shuck a shell in and it wouldn't fire.

 

Cool, Wayne is getting a Boomstick.

I just got a Westernfield 12 Gauge that belonged to my father.

 

Remington 870.

 

Having a wide exposure with guns, and having sold both the Mossberg 500 and the 870, the 870 is the better buy. The 500 will still work but its not as 'finished' as the 870 is.

Why do you want the stainless models? If it’s for home defense I recommend getting them in the standard parkerized finish. Remington also makes the Police model of the 870 which is my favorite. It’s blued (not parkerized), wood furniture, and a stainless bolt. A real beauty that will last a long time.

Go with the 870.

 

I deal machine guns/silencers. Go with the 870 in some sort of configuration.You can get one with a pistol grip or buy an aftermarket folding stock if small package interests you.Get an 18" barrell.I have seen and had several cop trade in 870 and they beat the **** out of them.They can take it.Not that theres anything wrong with the others,but when you buy guns that may save your life compare it to buying helmets, dont price shop.Just my opinion.Go to gunsamerica.com or gunbroker.com or order from my partner budsgunshop.com .You can get an idea of what is out there and the best prices too.

 

I'm on the Florida coast and and occasionally boat with the 'gators so one less thing to rust away the better. Besides, sometimes stainless is a preference, much like politics and religion.

Too bad this INOX didn't come in .45, but that's another thread.
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If you are looking for a cheap and nice shotgun I would suggest the Mossberg Maverick 88 12ga tactical and you can find one for $400 dlls

 

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/37_64/products_id/95059

You probably cant have the folding stock or a pistol grip in Kali but this is a start?Search the others he has and notice the price is delivered.Plus, Kali has a new deal that you have to be registered in the state to ship guns to you, alot of dealers wont fool with it.

 

That's a real bummer, one of the things I like about Texas is they don't have a bunch of restrictions.

Dunno if you are considering a pistol grip instead of a regular butt stock, or if that is even legal in CA, but in my experience I would avoid getting just a pistol grip unless you are really proficient or can practice with it a bunch. I have tried a few and found it difficult to aim. Even shooting shot shells it's hard to hit what you intend if you try shooting from the hip and I have seen a guy pop himself in the nose from recoil trying to shoot it like a big pistol.

 

here you have a Siega 12 for $700
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=111132842
$800 for a Siega 12 with side-folding pistol-grip
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=111132573
cheap S 12 with 5-round magazine for $650
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=111132343

 

...At first I thought you wanted to shoot dirt bags off their harley-davidsons. ( oops, I meant say "their finance co.`s harley")

 

Great pic. Is the magazine filled with Viagra?

 

Depends on the patient but I'd use the Federal 230gr HydraShok JHP.