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Should I even think about this 308 GTSi

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  1. F430dreamer

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    #1 F430dreamer, Apr 14, 2009
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    The Ferrari is an 1983 308 GTSi Quattrovalvole.

    Body kit is by Koening.

    Wheels are BBS modular with P-Zero tires.

    One of 871 - see this link: http://www.308qvregister.com/articles/production_number.htm

    This car has 46500 miles showing.

    I would be buying this for a fun investment so I am wondering if I should buy it, keep it the way it is or buy it and try to return it to it original look or just not buy it.
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  2. Iain

    Iain F1 Rookie

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    That is just offensive!

    If it were me I would run, not walk
     
  3. F430dreamer

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    I agree, its ugly.

    I would try to return it as much as possible to original...

    But it is good mechanical condition, and the owner would accept in the 20's probably.

    Also, the books and records were lost when the dealer that was trying to sell it "was forcibly evicted".

    The car should not be worth very much, that is why im thinking about buying it. I would be sitting on it for 5 or 10 years.
     
  4. Doug

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    I wouldn't buy that as an investment or any 308QV. Your chart shows there were over 3000 QV GTS's built. Buy it if you like the look and want to be driving a custom mid-80's flashback.
     
  5. Rossa a nord di

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    I kind of disagree.
    I think it looks kinda nifty. If Ferrari had put out a 25th anniversary 308 or something and made these changes, I bet it would be a collector. Almost looks like a Countach from the rear.
    I agree with the comment about money. It's not worth more this way, definitely less, but the person who customized the car isn't going to think so.

    Not for me, but I bet it will get alot more looks from your average person than a "normal" 308.
    Brent.
     
  6. F430dreamer

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    I know this will hurt the value (luckily I can reap the benefit from this).

    the main reason I posted was, I am wondering if the car can be returned to original and also how much it would it (roughly).

    Also, will the resale value (compared to original) be effected by taking it back to original with un-original parts. Does that make sense written out, or just in my head?

    ,Daniel
     
  7. Doug

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    Just the cost of returning the body to normal with a full repaint and finding some QV wheels will put you into a price of buying one that is original and is in good shape. Not sure of other mods, but to reverse them will add to the cost.
     
  8. 308 milano

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    These Koening kits are pathetic, makes the car look like a cheep 80s firebird.
     
  9. Capt Ron

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    Screams KIT CAR!
     
  10. F430dreamer

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    I just found out I actually know the owner of the body shop that was contracted to put the kit on and do the work. I actually have a car getting worked on at his shop right now so I will ask him about how much it would cost (exactly) to return it to original.

    From what I know, there are no other mods other then the exterior ones.

    I agree.
     
  11. irondogmike

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    I know another way to throw my money away than on that
     
  12. miketuason

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    How wide is that rear wheels?
     
  13. barcheta

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    Take away the rear spoiler and I kind of dig it too. You have to remember that in the eighties, excess of this sort was the norm. Just look at anything made by GM or Ford when they were trying to get the pulse of what they thought was the enthusiast tastes at the time. I seem to recall some pretty elaborate offerings from Mercedes and Porsche as well. The trend now is more sedate with a focus on functional extremes. So considering what it represents I wouldn't change anything about it and would just enjoy it for what it is.... hardcore eighties excess.
     
  14. F430dreamer

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    the mods were done recently.

    ... I think you guys might be right... I think im going to leave this one.
     
  15. AHudson

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    Why take the real thing and make it look fake? Keep looking, you'll be glad.
     
  16. FF8929

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    It would only make sense if you loved the way it looks now, and weren't going to change it.
     
  17. krisdisk

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    Sure it's not a Pontiac Fiero???
     
  18. CaptOharry

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    I'll give ya a buck two dollars 98 cents for it.
     
  19. miketuason

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    #19 miketuason, Apr 16, 2009
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    If everything checks out OK, buy it, you can always change it back ton its original look,
    if not, hey at least you have the body kit:)
     
  20. decampos

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    Did Koening ever do anything to the engines with these? Were they all about the bodykit?
     
  21. blainewest

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    Wow. That's the first Ferrari I've ever seen kitted to look like a Fierro (sp?). Why would you buy this when you could buy an original Fierro for a couple grand? Butt ugly.
    Run Forest run.
     
  22. GrigioGuy

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    That's a great period piece. Wild widebody kits were the THING back in the 80s! I'd keep it just as it is, including the wheels. Maybe add a turbo just to give it a kick.
     
  23. blockhead

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  24. finnerty

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    #24 finnerty, Apr 17, 2009
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    Will be a money pit to put it back to original.

    Any mods to the engine / powertrain? If no mechanical improvements over stock, I'd offer no more than $20K. That style is just too dated, he's gonna be lucky to find a buyer outside of Tijuana...

    Plus, '83 was the worst year for the QV's --- they had a lot of initial bugs. If the car has had all the recall / upgrade stuff done, fine. If it has not, run away fast...

    As much as I hate to see an F-car VIN disappear for ever, that car is worth more broken up for parts than as is....
     
  25. JAYF

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    If you are looking for an investment grade car-that is far from it. That car will only make people laugh at you while you drive down the road.
     

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