Should Max get a suspension from races?

Don't forget that Michael Schumacher had his 1997 results stricken from the record book. A bit of a blotch on his copybook, wouldn't you say?

 

All in the same race, and that's just the same race:

Did you see Alonso driving Vettel off track ?



Penalty ?

Did you see Gasly driving into his teammate ?



Penalty ?

Did you see Ricciardo comming through the inside of Bottas, almost crashing into him, just missig him because Bottas giving space ?



Penalty ?

Did you see Hamilton making quite an interesting move (some might call it dangerous) on Max when he (Max) was overtaking him around the outside and had all the space needed, initially ?



Penalty ?

The stupidity is mind boggling.

 

And no, Max shouldn't be suspended.

Bottas and Raikkonen should be suspended for driving every race behind the car in front of them without even trying to overtake.

Maybe same of you do not understand; they are not commuting to work, they are racing....

 

I couldn't agree with you more.

His errors can no longer be chalked up to being a rookie.

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. He's got Jos' anger issues, I am sure. Hot heads and racing are not good matches.

 

Avoiding reacions are we, interesting part:

"dives headlong into a situation, relying upon those he is trying to overtake to avoid him"

Are we talking Alonso, Ricciardo or Max ?

Some have trouble reading, viewing, learning.....

 

WTF are you on about????

You do know the difference between SUPER LICENCE penalties and race penalties?? They are not the same, maybe learn the rules before talking nonsense.

Gasley was given a 10 sec penalty AND 2 points on his super licence. None of other incidents warrant penalties.


"The stupidity is mind boggling". Exactly.

 

Ricciardo's overtake was legit.
Bottas with a slower car came off the sweeping right did take the defensive line to then inside until it was too late. Ricciardo dove in the inside before the next right hand apex.

The overtake was legit.

 

Bottas went to cover but then backed off half way ...he is leading ,he should have blocked Ricci.

He does not have that killer instinct ..bit like Rosberg...

 

Yeah, he left the inside open off the turn. He stayed outside and when he realize what was going on...he tried to cover but it was too late. Ricciardo had the faster car took the inside and beat him to the apex.

 

To be fair to Michael, he remained adequately ruthless and made clumsy mistakes throughout his F1 career.

Rascasse parking in 2006 - still makes me chuckle now

 

LOL, is your post supposed to actually mean anything? Are you implying that Max is doing no differently than Alonso or Ric? Are you watching the same races as everyone else on here? Or are you so disillusion with Max that you simply just can't accept that your hero isn't what you think he is?

Some have trouble writing coherent posts.........

 

http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/23272076/future-f1-world-champion-wake-calls-ayrton-senna-michael-schumacher-now-max-verstappen

 

Similar to what I mentioned earlier in this thread. Time will tell.

"I may be wrong but, watching the post-race interviews with Max, I thought I recognised the flicker of a contemplative expression"

 

+1

 

Interesting vote results with this - BBC Max vs Ricci - who is better

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/43775631

 

well not that interesting as Ricciardo is at this stage better than Max. He is quite good in finding the richt moment to act. Nevertheless in a one/few years I think Max can outgrow Ricciardo if the genes from his father are not that dominant.......
ps results now 75% in favor of Ricci...

ciao
Oscar

 

That appeared to be the feeling in the comments. Ricci is better now and overall was or is less accident prone. Maybe not as fast in a marginal measurement but a smarter driver.

 

Single lap and race pace Max is better, which is quite the achievement IMO.....all fine and good but if Max can't learn to pick his moments to overtake better he'll continue losing out to Ricciardo. We know how good Max can be overtaking, he's shown us that plenty, especially in Brazil when he did so well at both picking the right moment and sheer speed. But we've seen him get red mist a few times now, and that's not a good trait. Once he works over the rough spots, he'll rapidly become champion. China hurt him as he knew very well he threw that win away, and the one two. stupid stupid stupid. He looked remorseful, I'm sure Horner has had one of his famous chats over the last few days with him, now translate that into something meaningful on tracks. Let him watch some videos of Ricciardo and picking his moment to overtake. Especially if you're so much faster than the car in front, can use the time to get to the proper overtaking point to charge energy in the car even more and give it a big burst on the way to overtaking point and beyond it to create a nice quick gap.

 

Ricci is more mature, which counts for a lot (drinking out of his sweaty boots excluded). But his maturity advantage will diminish as time marches on.

 

Yes that is the conclusion I saw and read on the BBC link. In general Ricci does not appear as accident prone. Max is a touch faster. What he does with that speed now is the question.

 

It's so funny to read all of the dislike/nigh-on hatred for Max in this thread, with people suggesting he should be banned, that he's going to kill himself or someone else with his driving one day etc., etc., etc.

Half of you are ranting and raving as if you were the other drivers involved in these incidents with Max!

The one person who has more right to be ranting about what happened in China than any of those in this thread, is Sebastian Vettel - And yet, he's not calling for Max to be banned from races, he's not making wild statements that Max is going to kill himself or someone else with his driving, he's not trying to make out that Max has no place in F1. Sebastian Vettel has handled this whole incident in a far calmer, more grown up manner than a lot of those in this thread! He's accepted that Max simply got it wrong going into the hairpin, he's accepted, and appreciated Max's direct and immediate apology, and he's moved on from the whole incident.

You all moan that F1 races are boring processions, with no overtaking because the drivers are too scared to just go for it, and some of you post that the racing is so much better in GP2/F2 (and MotoGP for that matter), because the drivers (and riders) give it a go at every opportunity. Then along comes Max into F1, and he gives it a go at every opportunity, he sees a half chance and has a go, and yes, quite a few times it doesn't pay off, but at least he doesn't just sit behind the car in front for the whole race, too bloody scared to even try an overtake!

I seem to recall a driver in the past who used to bash wheels with other drivers during overtakes, go for gaps that weren't really on, destroy cars with extremely risky overtakes (many of which took out other drivers too), upset his fellow drivers with the way he went racing, who pushed his car to the limit and beyond, and drove ever lap as if it were the only one that mattered, and based on what some are suggesting in this thread in regards to Max, he should have been banned from F1 for life! - In many ways, Gilles Villeneuve was far more reckless than Max has been, in cars that were far more dangerous (as he sadly found out to his cost! ), but at least he gave it a go, and at least Max gives it a go!

I loved watching Gilles race, because you always knew that something exciting could happen (even if in the back of your mind you also knew there was a good chance he wouldn't finish!), and Mad Max brings some of that old excitement to today's races - (Who knows what might happen when he's on track!). It's the same reason Marc Marquez is my favourite MotoGP rider - Because he's a little bit wild, a bit of a rebel, doing his own thing and giving it a go at every opportunity.

Without Mad Max on track, F1 wouldn't be half as interesting!





Without Max on track, F1 would be far more boring to watch!

 

Yep, bang on dude, Dan the champ, Max the chump

 

Agree to a point, Max is just luckier that today's cars are just that bit safer (and Webber is also very lucky they are safe if you remember the high flying accidents he had)

Gilles was an accident looking for a place to happen, Max's incidents are not accidents, they're impetuosity personified

 

Max has also been banging wheels with Merc but when it happened to Hamilton he said it showed "a lack of respect" haha !