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Should team orders continue to be outlawed?

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Should the "No team orders" rule continue, or be abolished?

  1. It's fine as it is - NO team orders!

  2. Team orders should be allowed

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  1. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    How'd the straw work?
     
  2. kraftwerk

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    #52 kraftwerk, Aug 30, 2010
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    Had to get eyes sorted first..:)

    You may regret letting me know that nickname..;)
     
  3. patricko

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    Piquet Jr likes them :)

    I guess they did take it to the natural conclusion.
     
  4. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    When you guys cite Massa And PJ jr you're running out of steam :)

    The fact that the fact that team orders are endemic to team sports in no way condones illegal behavior.
     
  5. patricko

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    #55 patricko, Aug 30, 2010
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    Was Piquet's gift for Alonso in Singapore illegal?
     
  6. VIZSLA

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    His deliberate crash certainly was and deserved punishment for the danger it put everyone in.
    I can order an employee to behave in a manner that enhances my interests. I can not order him to shoot the competition though. (as much as the SOBs deserve it!)
     
  7. patricko

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    #57 patricko, Aug 30, 2010
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    So, it was a team order and it was not a criminal act. It may have been stupid and ill-advised but we could use that to describe someone that had a busy day at Spa too.

    How about a team order to crash out a title contender to help #1? Will we allow that too? (BTW I am not suggesting that SV crashed Button out deliberately)

    Where does it end?

    It is better to just not allow it.
     
  8. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Are you really unable to separate an individual bad order from all orders? Anything can be abused but a blanket prohibition is rarely the best option.
    I doubt that you are BTW. ;)
     
  9. patricko

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    The only team orders that I have "seen" have come from Italians (or Italian teams) and they have made a mess of it :)
     
  10. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    I think its safe to say the circus will go on, and we will keep going round it in circles with this team orders or not, as long as the fat cats get there money, nothing else matters.
     
  11. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Patrick, Just when you're beginning to show some rhetorical chops you fall into ethnic stereotyping?
    Besides history shows you to be quite wrong.
    I'm disappointed.
     
  12. patricko

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    And I was so close :(

    BTW I was not stereotyping, just pointing out a fact. :)
     
  13. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Your definition of fact is quite, shall we say, imaginative.
    I give you Uhlenhaut and Neubauer both from the other side of the Alps.
     
  14. patricko

    patricko Formula Junior

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    Is that because Ferrari was not an Italian team or run by Itailians in 2002? I thought you would have got me on that one as Ferrari was an English team in 2002 :D
     
  15. VIZSLA

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    And I thought you showed such promise grasshopper.
     
  16. patricko

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    I thought you wanted me to play to type :)
     

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