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  1. Texas Forever

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    Interesting, but does look odd in the surroundings.
     
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    Here's my guess on the future of office buildings.

    1. The future belongs to integrated live/work/play developments. Remember, people started commuting to get away from the factories. The white collar workers fled to high end residential (Grosse Pointe) and the blue-collars fled to Levittown. The blue-collars had to work in the factories, but the white-collar types built downtown towers for themselves.

    The future will be no-collar workers. They are a varied group, but one key factor is they are NOT willing to commute. They want to live/work/play all within bicycle distance of each other. Frankly, I don't blame them.

    2. I'm predicting massive innovations in building materials, particularly glass. There's no reason, these glass towers can't be producing solar energy. Plus, imagine glass or other materials that are shapeshifters. Depending upon light and angle, a building will appear to change shape.

    3. Planning will have to be citywide, instead of block by block. The new urbanists are right. A city starts with a high-density center, such as where two rivers come together, and then get less and less dense as you go out.
     
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    Nobody has a response? Is it because I'm 100% correct? Must be. :)
     
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    That's true for the downtown areas, but only some buildings are done mixed use. Lakeshore East is a perfect example. Almost all the building are condo and apartments with several also having floors for or being hotels. Not many offices in Lakeshore East. It is surrounded by office buildings on the west side. Office buildings are almost always closer to the train stations.
     
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    Thanks. My point is the central business district is a dinosaur. Big cities may become the central entertainment district, but the idea of people commuting 40 miles to work is dying just like the daily newspaper.
     
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    In some cities like Chicago and New York they are building condos so that they don't have to commute, but a lot of people still do. I think big central business core cities are here to stay, and if you look around the world the exact opposite to what you say is true. Maybe in newer urban areas that is true, but 50 years from now they might also have a bigger business central core.
     
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    I think you'd be better off to look at Paris for a model of the future of cities. Go back and study why modern central business districts developed in the first place. Due to limited communication outlets, big businesses had to put everyone in the same place, think the GM building in Detroit. Those days are long gone. I know the lady in charge of A/P for Exxon. She is headquartered in a relatively small suburban office park. The actual work is done in Argentina and Thailand. They pay over $1 billion a day in bills. The future is decentralization, not more centralization.
     
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    Well, not always. Far flung, non English native speaking staff are not the best to resolve problems. Ask a sampling of vendors and suppliers how they like talking to a foreign country about an error in an invoice.

    In my industry two of the largest players did this, and they are bleeding clients and staff (as a result of really screwed up back office support). Right now 80% of my growth can be traced back to the decision to move ops out of th building.

    Personally, I've spent two hours on the phone with googles out of country accounting support, it's so bad I almost feel sorry for them. Have no idea what a debit is, and despite saying "yes I understand" they do not.

    Just because they are paying $1bil a day doesn't mean they are doing it well.

    I'm also seeing a shift away from remote workers-which I did not expect. I've recently talked to web.com staff, who frequently used to work from home but now have to show up to work. I've asked temp staff companies about work from home and they have told me "we don't allow that anymore"

    I do think that no one wants to drive into any city for work. Just ask Elon musk about commuting.

    Smaller buildings closer to affordable housing and, focused tasks and connected together via the net.

    That's my prediction
     
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    We're saying the same thing. My point about Exxon is they are no longer in a central business district, not how well their A/P is working. Back in the '20s, '30s, '40s, '50s, '60s, '70s, '80s and into the '90s, Exxon A/P had no choice. They all had to be in the same building. This is no longer true. So when I see these pictures of new skyscrapers, I have to ask, "Who is going to work there?"
     
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    Sorry I misunderstood you.
    Sometimes reading a thread on a phone isn't the best way :-(

    When I look at a skyscraper I ask "how the heck will they get there?" When I see a four story building in downtown LA replaced with a 50 story building I can't imagine the impact on an already horrific traffic problem.
     
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    They won't. That's the whole point. The live in the suburbia and commute to the central business district is so '50s. :)
     
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    Skyline shot. To the right side just out of the photo is where the major construction in the south loop is taking place. Several 600-900 foot buildings are under construction(all condo and hotel), thus extending the skyline to the south. For reference, Chicago has 4 1100 ft or taller buildings and will soon add a 5th(the Vista at 1200ft). Tourism is getting important in Chicago as can be seen by the second photo.. Also a shot from O'Hare in the afternoon.
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    Holy cow that's going to be a monster. Nice shot btw
     
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    Always nice.

    On my recent flight back to Chicago we were treated to the fly-over Chicago coming from the West, downtown, turn around and heading for a landing from the East. Always love that approach as it gives so many opportunities for shots of the city from the air.
     
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    Tribune Media unveils bold plan for Freedom Center site
    Tribune Media has spent the past few years turning its real estate portfolio into cash, but it's planning to use one of its properties to redraw a big chunk of downtown Chicago.

    In a step toward transforming a massive stretch of the Chicago River's North Branch, the company today is unveiling plans to turn its 30-acre riverside parcel between Grand and Chicago avenues into a sprawling mixed-use development with more than a dozen new buildings and 9 million square feet commercial and residential space.

    Branding the area as the River District, the ambitious proposal contemplates 19,000 jobs and 5,900 residential units across 18 buildings designed as an "urban tech-centric neighborhood that will reflect how people want to live and work," according to a Tribune Media statement.

    Amid a frenzy of bids from cities nationwide to lure online retail giant Amazon's second headquarters, the company today plans to file an application with the city of Chicago to begin the process of rezoning the land at 777 W. Chicago Ave.—currently the site of the Chicago Tribune's Freedom Center printing plant and several parking lots—to allow office and residential development.
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    Pending City approval, the first phase of the redevelopment would begin in 2020 with 5.5 million square feet of development on the southern portion of the site, which is "shovel ready," the Tribune Media statement said.

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    Awesome shots, thanks for posting.
     

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