Slight play on brake pedal - 348

That sounds bad Darryl. You need to stick your head under the dash to see where that play is coming from?

 

Did this brake pedal 'slop' just happen?

 

Ok, I thought maybe the brake pedal return spring had fallen off but if you think you noticed it a few months ago maybe that's not it.

Definitely take a good look man and please let us know what you come across.

 

I wouldn't worry about the pedal and the spring, they are probably o.k. The first thing to check is the brake fluid level then bleed the system. If the brake fluid has not been flushed and replaced less than two years ago, then it should be done immediately. If the problem re-appears after some time, then it is probably the master brake cylinder on its way out.

 

If it turns out to be a bad master cylinder, does anyone know if there is a rebuild kit for it in the 348? Sure hope so. If you have to replace the whole master cylinder/ABS actuator/reservoir unit, you won't believe the price!!!!! Ricambi lists it for.....


Wait for it...





In the $12K region

 

The master cylinder can be replaced separately, I'm sure. Probably spendy, but not five figure spendy.

I'm not sure that the problem is hydraulic though. From the description of the symptom it sounds more like a linkage issue.

 

No worries mate.

Don't think it's a hydraulic issue man. I think the pedal is firm, but has a small amount of play in it.

If I understand correctly.

Definitely remove the master cylinder and send it away for repair.

I have priced $1000+ master cylinders for some cars, but you can have them rebuilt (and re-sleeved if required) for an average of $200.

No one does it local here, but it's a week turn around when I send these away for repair.

Definitely sounds like a linkage/spring/pedal issue to me. But we will soon see.......

 

Do you have a company that will rebuild or rebore the brake master cylinder ? Mine is weeping a little. I have been unable to locate anyone that will do the rebuild. As soon as I mention Teves ABS they back off. The most common reason is parts are not available label.

Thanks,

Brewman

 

I am located in Australia man, surely there must be someone there in the US that can do it for you.

After all, it's just seals in there. There would the correct sized seals out there that are available for this unit.

I have never sent a Ferrari master cylidner away for repair, but I have sent nearly everything else. From old Mercs and BMWs, to my mates 86 911 Porsche. And everything else in-between that is not European.

If I can't source a local kit from SKF to do it myself, I send to the "pros". I don't know where they get their seal kits from, but they send these parts back looking like new.

I have just sent a friends master and booster away to Brake Mart (here in Aus) for a rebuild. He can buy both new, but it's half the price to have them both rebuilt.

They are to suit his old Holden HX station wagon.

 

Well there is White Post restorations in Virginia (I think) that has been doing this for years. I must say I remember recently seeing a thread that said some negative things about their recent quality though. Must be others as well out there. Keep us posted how you make out.

 

You guys are scaring me. Please tell me that there is a replacement master cylinder or at least a rebuild kit available for less than the price of a beater Miata. I had intended to sell my track ///M3 and use the 348 as an occasional track car, but if you can't even buy a master cylinder I may have to just sell the Ferrari and keep the BMW. I love the 348, whereas the ///M3 inspires absolutely no passion, but at least I can get parts for the BMW. :-/

 

BTW, Stainless Steel Brakes used to bore masters and install stainless sleeves, but recently their web site has changed focus. Sleeving with stainless would obviously be an interesting option, but that still requires the availability of new seals. Still, you might contact Stainless Steel Brakes to see if they can help. Please post up your results, regardless of what they may be.

 

1. A bad master cylinder does not create slop.
2. Rebuild kits are generally available from any Ferrari parts supplier.
3. It ain't rocket science! Anybody can do it who has basic mechanical skills.

 

Bruce, do you have a source? I didn't find them on RA's site or Superperformance UK's site.

 

GT Car parts in Phoenix

 

I'll check it out. Thanks.

 

Any updates Darryl?

 

I talked to White Stone as well as all parts suppliers that I know of (GT, RICAMBI,RUTLANDS, FERRPARTS). None has the seal kits for Teves equipped cars and White Stone wouldn't touch it.

Suggestions anyone. As 348's age this will become a bigger problem.

Brewman

 

You can try Jaguar. Certain models used almost identical ABS Brake Master (348 Ate No. 10.2123-0106.9, Jag Ate No. 10.2123-0105.9). Both have the same cylinder diameter, only the Jag MC is a mirror image of the 348 MC. The seals kit for Jag master appears to be JLM11336 (not cheap):

JA-JLM11336 - Abs Valve Block Kit XJ6 - $735.93

Jaguar Parts - Jaguar Parts Center - Call (800) 510-1401 for Genuine Jaguar Parts and Accessories - $714.32

There is another Jag seals kit numbered JLM11337 at about $250. I don't know what exactly each of the two mentioned kits contains, something to find out. JLM11336 might be a complete kit, JLM11337 perhaps only the piston seals (or maybe both a needed for a complete rebuild?).
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No worries man, looking forward to seeing how you go.