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  1. Archer911

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    When I started the car and drove it at Wayne Carini's the car did not smoke. That's 3 times. When it was delivered a few days ago it smoked when it was taken off the truck. I just pulled it out of the garage (to make sure all of my wiring work is OK) and it's smoking on the left side.

    Checking the oil it seems quite high.

    Could an oil overfill, which may have happened at F40 before it left, cause smoking and would it just be on the left side?

    I'm afraid to drive this thing now. Advice needed.

    Thanks...
     
  2. Rosso328

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    With the engine running and engine cover open, can you see where the smoke is coming from?
     
  3. Rosso328

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    One quick thought occurred to me as to where to look.

    See if you can see oil in the V between the banks, on the left side near the oil filter. If the filter or the mounting gasket are loose or cracked, it can leak on top of the block and produce a lot of smoke.
     
  4. 308 milano

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    308s need to sit a bit after shut down before checking oil level, or yes, it will read very high.
    Both my Euro QV and my old GTB QV seemed to have more noticeable exhaust off the left hand side until it warmed up a bit. Wouldn't think it was cause for concern. Enjoy your car and stop worrying! LOL
     
  5. Rosso328

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    To Kim's point, if the smoke is coming out the exhaust pipe, and not out from under the engine cover, please ignore my previous post.

    :)
     
  6. johnk...

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    #6 johnk..., Oct 1, 2016
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    Archer 911,

    Where are you located? I'm about 10 miles form F40. If it's smoking out the left side exhaust, the weather has gotten a lot cooler and damp lately and what you are seeing could just be condensation. The QVs tends to do that when cold. If it goes away when warmed up, good chance that's it. Also, does the smoke hand in the air or does it dissipate quickly as it moves away from the car?

    As for oil level, check it when cold, engine off.

    Also, I can show you what original QV wiring looks like as I have an original 85 QV.
     
  7. miketuason

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    What color is the smoke, blueish, white, or black?
     
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    I was going to ask that Mike but I've found that many can tell the difference between oil smoke and condensation. Thus the "does it dissipate....." question.
     
  9. Archer911

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    #9 Archer911, Oct 1, 2016
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    You guys are the best!

    I decided to take it for an easy drive through the neighborhood. The engine seems to run great and the smoke did go away. Understood about atmospheric conditions and exhaust color. It's vapor like and not blue.

    That being said when I returned from my test drive at F40 there was smoke burning off the engine on the right side. Once on the lift it showed wet in the area of what I believe is the housing that covers the belts. You can see a droplet of oil in the photo.

    I'm taking it to a mechanic on Tuesday for belt service.

    In the meantime I am changing the oil tonight and will verify the right quantity on refill.

    Thanks again everyone...I'll actually sleep tonight.
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  10. johnk...

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    Smoke on the right side is typical of an oil leak. Oil drips down on the exhaust runner from the front bank and burns off. Smoke rises through the louvers on the rear deck. Typically happens when the engine is shut off after a drive. Not a big deal unless it is severe or oil is getting on the timing belts as well.

    Could be cam seals, valve covers gaskets or cam drive sprocket bearing seals.
     
  11. Archer911

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    Johnk. We were at Lime Rock for the recent vintage festival and on Sunday went down to the track for the concours. There was a small group of 308s and 328s. One of the 308s came in smoking from the right side louvers as you say. Hope to have this sorted this week.
     
  12. miked

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    Every year about this time with the colder temperatures people who have recently purchased a 308/328 start threads about their left exhaust pipe putting out more "smoke" (condensation) than the right side tailpipe. The stock muffler is not a true dual exhaust system. The exhaust from the front and rear banks combine in a common chamber inside of the muffler. The internal aerodynamics inside the muffler happen to favor more exhaust gases exiting the left outlet than the right.

    Not to worry, it's normal. Enjoy your new ride.
     
  13. absostone

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    Looks like u need cam seals
     
  14. dwhite

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    Never heard this one. I believe the correct way is after the oil is at full operating temp, shut it down and wait 10 mins then check the level.

    Curious, why was the car not serviced by F40.
     
  15. 308inSD

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    I had the cam drive bearing/seals replaced on my car recently. That issue was causing smoke through the right (passenger) side louvers, but not the left as the OP mentions.
     
  16. johnk...

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    Read post 9 my friend. Different issue.

     
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    I didn't complete my thought. Sorry for the confusion. If it is between the marks when cold it is definitely not over filled. To make sure the level is correct it has to be checked warm, 15 minutes after engine off.
     
  18. JasonMiller

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    If I recall the episode , they did a belt service on the car, but that may have been many years ago for all I know...

    Jason
     
  19. johnk...

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    Different car.
     

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