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Snow Collapses Hanger At Dulles

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  1. teak360

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  2. DallasGuy

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    Wow, that is some expensive iron sitting on their tails. Surprised that a hangar that large fell victim to the weight of the snow.
     
  3. Bob Parks

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    This has happened several times in the Washington, D.C. area. I lived there for 10 years when I was a little kid ( I'm now a big kid) and I remember that the roof of a theater collapsed killing 100 people due to heavy wet snow. My dad was an architect and knew the man who designed the theater. That man committed suicide. The area gets heavy wet snow occasionally and I recall when it was hit in 1932 during the depression when we were living on a defunct farm. We barely made it through the winter of two to three feet of thick cold wet snow. One would think that the civil engineering in that area would catch on to the climatic anomalies there.
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  4. WJHMH

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    Someone just sent that to me this morning, scary to think what the overall damage will total up to.
     
  5. Jedi

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    HOLY CRAP!!! "Jeeves... get the plane ready!" "Um.... sir, well, um something happened..."

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  6. Tcar

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    What is the plane off to the left? Anyone know?

    Wing from center of pic to left edge.

    Looks like mostly tail damage to most.
     
  7. bbs911

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    I believe it's a Global. To me, the underside of the wing + winglet looks like a Canadair product.

    That's some major stress on the main gear of those planes doing extended wheelies!
     
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    Just read where the hangar has officially been condemned. $60 million down the tubes...ouch. :-(
     
  9. teak360

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    The one with the brown swoopy stripes is a Global Epress XRS.
     
  10. robbreid

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    Dulles Jet Center; a total of 3 bays have collapsed involving about 20 jets. The only survivors where 3 General Dynamics Gulfstream`s in Bay `D`.

    First photo shows the Hilton Hotels, Gulfstream V, Blue Global Express of Kodak - whose CEO was attending a White House Superbowl party, the next jet is DC Global`s - Global Express, and the wing you see, is in the next photo, is a just registered Global Express with less than 100 hours on the airframe, and prior to the collapse worth over 50 million US dollars.

    Next is a destroyed Hawker 800XP - and least she went out with her head held high!!!!

    Aerial shot of Dulles Jet Center - Bay `A` is far right, Bay `D` survived.

    Starting next week, the builder, will be fully deconstructing the entire facility.
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  11. ProRallyCodriver

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    I'm ~ 20 miles from Dulles.
    Had roofs partially collapse on the garages I have my Lancia stored in and another roof where rallycar is. Roof came down to 2 inches from Lancia and 4 inches from rallycar. Third roof where driftcar is buckled a wee bit. Had a lot of digging to to last weekend. Earlier snow this year was just as deep if not deeper but this last was wet and heavy.
     
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    Rumor has it this will be the most expensive GA hull loss ever!
     
  13. LetsJet

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    Wow, these are the relatively new hangars?

    Sad looking at all that...
     
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  15. thecarreaper

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    thanks. be interesting to see how this goes.
     
  16. lmunz22

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    I'm assuming that all of the affected airframes will be scrapped?
     
  17. Gatorrari

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    I would think not -- that Global Express certainly looks repairable. Considering what I've seen Boeing's AOG teams do, I suspect that many of the damaged aircraft will be fixed and returned to service.
     
  18. Bob Parks

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    You bring back a lot of exciting times when the the Boeing AOG (aircraft on ground) teams first started up in the 50's. We had to provide drawings and illustrations for them and it was amazing to see how fast and effective those guys were. Damage inspection teams were dispatched immediately and within a day or less they had sent back selected illustrations of the subassemblies and parts that were needed and most of the time they were pulled from the assembly line and shipped to the AOG crews.In one area of the factory they had crates of tools and fixtures ready to airfreight on a moments notice. The AOG teams were composed of the best of the best mechanics and systems people and when needed they were pulled from their respective departments and flown out , also on a moments notice. We saw photos of the "before and after" and these guys performed miracles. Most of the damaged aircraft were back in the air in about 30 days and some of them were horribly mangled. This operation would make an interesting book.
     
  19. zygomatic

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    Speaking of Boeing, I remember seeing a B-52 that was towed from its hanger after the hangar collapsed on it during a tornado. If memory serves, the BUFF didn't need much (if anything) by way of repair.
     
  20. NV Stig

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    #21 NV Stig, Jul 8, 2010
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    Have you seen the latest hanhar oops? Someone at Jet Aviation Teterboro fired off the Halon suppression system in the hangar. Anyone happen to know what planes were in there at the time?
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  21. thecarreaper

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    isnt that the foam deluge system? oops!
     
  22. CornersWell

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    Halon's a gas, right? And, that's foam. Foam is worse than gas. Maybe they all just need a wash and detail!

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  23. lmunz22

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    I was just wondering if they would even try to repair in such a litigious society where they would be on the hook for any subsequent accidents.
     
  24. NV Stig

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    Engines will need an inspection at the very least. That foam is also very corrosive to a lot of aviation components.

    Planes are ripped apart during major inspections all the time. We just did an inspection that removed the whole empannage from the airframe just to replace some rudder components. This was a Gulfstream. The GV is having so many rudder related issues of late it isn't funny. Looks like they finally stretched that fuselage to the limits. I don't know a lot about Global's, except that they use a lot of carbon fiber, which is about tensile strength. The are made to produce more lift and thrust. The downward force may have made a simple crushing of thos carbon fiber components.

    It's about what the engineers come up with for a plan of action. Those planes roll out of the factory at $50 million a copy before paint and interior. They are weighing out the options. Everything is mage to be replaced on airplanes. Remember how Compuware was able to rebuild the back of their Corvette at Le Mans and get another 20 minutes out of it after that crash? Ok, that might be a bad analogy......
     

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