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So, I got around to calling Indy today...

Discussion in 'F1' started by nugget, Jun 23, 2005.

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  1. nugget

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    I went to the race with my wife last weekend, took my parents as a Christmas gift. Obviously I was disappointed like everyone who went. I finally got around to calling the track today just to inquire about getting a refund or a credit for the next race. The lady on the phone at the ticket box was fairly snippy with me saying that a race happened and that this kind of thing happens in all other sports like horse racing and other motor sports...basically said that's life tough luck. Like I told her, I feel terrible for the track too. I was really calm, joked with her a bit that she probably has been getting tons of calls like this. She never warmed up and just said you have internet, go to the website and there is a statement. She said no refunds are planned but if things change it will be posted on the internet. I know that they are probably frustrated there but they need to work hard to not let fans frustrations be turned on them because of terse, unsympathetic, comments and tones. If I called back again and got that same tone again I would start to blame the track and never go back.
    Basically, I feel bad for the track but also am a bit let down to say the least that my family and I spent about $4k in the 3 days we were there, nothing compared to many others, and never saw what we paid for. I am a huge Ferrari fan so was greatful to at least see what a Ferrari test session looked like in person.
    If anyone sees on the Indy website that refunds are granted if you contact them or anything like that, if you can let us all know that'd be great. I doubt I will check the site every day for the next 2 months. I completely feel that is was Michelin's fault alone in this so hope the track doesn't get screwed in all of this. Thanks, Glen
     
  2. beast

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    If you notice the IMS has not updated the USGP website since Sunday. Tony George is just laughing all the way to the bank :( All he cares about is the money.
     
  3. LetsJet

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    No, I think it is still too early..... give it time to sort out their game plan.
     
  4. beast

    beast F1 World Champ

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    Tony George's game plan keep all of the money in the back and keep collecting interest on it!!!!!! Remember a lot of us at Indy renewed out tickets the week after the race last year. Toney has been sitting on all of those Millions collecting interest off of it. Even if he refunds the ticket price he still comes out ahead.
     
  5. nugget

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    Thanks for the help. I haven't followed Indy or Cart really but heard that Tony George is a pretty tough business guy. I'm not holding my breath but I do think it is the right thing to do. Even if they refunded me the price of the 4 tickets it doesn't even come close to covering my costs, which were pretty small compared to those that travelled from all over the world. It would be a nice jester to at least give people like me the same 4 seats for next year for free to see an actual race this time. Then again, who knows if there will be a US Grand Prix.
    On a side note, this all has really bummed me out about the sport. I am completely amazed at the technology and intrigue. I wish the politics could stay out of it. I know this even more than anything will really fracture all of the F-1 teams and might cause a split for a seperate series. I can't imagine an F-1 league without Ferrari. But I also can't imagine an F-1 league without the big competitors like BMW, Mercedes, Renault, etc...there to battle it out. Thanks again, Glen
     
  6. tatcat

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    i still find it hard to listen to all of you crying. indy did nothing wrong. god forbid someone making a dollar. i suppose you all work for nothing and live on air. the bad guy here is michelin not the teams, not the track, not bernie, not mosley. michelin sent bad tires. they're the ones that messed up your good time. stop asking for your money back. get over it. if you're so upset, call michelin and bother their people with your problems. see what they tell you.
     
  7. LetsJet

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    I think you misunderstand me. I don't think Indy will be compensating you unless they recover damages. They will not be the losers here. That's why I think it will take time to see if the FIA forces compensation.
     
  8. tatcat

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    from who? michelin? hah.. good luck. i can see michelin sending everyone who had tickets coupons for tires.
     
  9. LetsJet

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    The teams
     
  10. tatcat

    tatcat F1 World Champ
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    how can you blame the teams. all they did was try to protect their drivers from getting hurt and destroying their cars.
     
  11. LetsJet

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    There have been many threads on this.......

    IMO - The teams could have raced safely. I would never suggest a driver race if it wasn't safe. I just think they had options, the worst of which is what they did. Personally, I feel even the teams recognize this now.... just a bit too late.

    We will have to see how this plays out.
     
  12. zsnnf

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    I renewed my ticket today. I didn't know my costomer number so I was given a little bit of a hard time. When it was said and done it worked out fine.

    I think people who had tickets may see some sort of compensation after the FIA meeting next Wedensday. But really, I spent about $3500 for the weekend, What's $150 ticket in the big picture?? I was happy with the results that Ferrarri got maximum points toward the championship AND I got to see history in the making.
    It was kinda like watching a disaster of some sort. You really don't like it, you can't believe it is happening, but you can't stop watching. And when it is over, you still don't believe it....
     
  13. DGS

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    Anybody wonder if Speed Channel is trying to get a "refund" on the fees they paid for covering the "race"? And what about their sponsors, who paid to run commercials during the "race"?

    Meanwhile, CBS -- who were probably being queried on why the races they carried didn't include the home GP -- are probably laughing hysterically. (Conspiracy theorists: you're on. :D) (Or is CBS a Canadian company, these days? :p)

    Meanwhile, what about the other TV feeds who shut off after the parade lap? Do they have to settle up with their commercial sponsors?

    The ticket prices for the grandstands are chump change, compared to the rest of the potential fall-out.

    We won't know until after Wednesday what FIA will have to say to Michelin. But you can bet that if there's any attempt to hold Michelin fiscally responsible for any of the consequences, their lawyers will have apoplexy. ("A little" legal liability is like "a little bit pregnant".)

    ... and F1 will be back to one tire supplier: Bridgestone.

    Michelin will get a slap on the wrist with a wet noodle, and that will be the end of it --- till next time.

    From the comments floating around the internet, the Michelin spin doctors are due a bonus: They took a massive failure of testing by Michelin and sold it as being FIA's fault, Bridgestone's fault, Firestone's fault, Indy's fault, Ferrari's fault -- everyone else's fault.
     
  14. beast

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    They learned from the best juan Pablo Montoya, and the French govt.
     
  15. Anthony_Ferrari

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    I know that ITV who did the UK coverage are looking into asking for some money back. I don't think they will get very far though as the TV viewing figures were actually unaffected by the lack of a race!
     
  16. Koby

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    I was thinking about this, and when the dust settles, you guys did witness the most infamous F1 race in history. Maybe this is better than a regular old GP?
     
  17. BartonWorkman

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    The money flew back to Paris on Bernie's private jet.

    It will take months to sort of the mess. Dont expect any quick actions or satisfaction.

    BHW
     
  18. robert biscan

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    I would't hold my breath for a refund. Everybody is right here and nothing has been done wrong.
     
  19. Turb0flat4

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    I don't see why anyone who went to this feels entitled to anything in the form of compensation. Obviously, the whole thing was a sorry spectacle, but that's what sometimes happens in real sports. If you want 100 % entertainment value every time at the expense of any integrity, then follow a "sport" like "professional" wrestling.

    I feel for you guys that are disappointed, but this sense of aggrievement, this demand for financial compensation, that I just *don't* get, sorry. The worst offenders are the idiots suing somebody over this, I have no sympathy with them at all.
     
  20. robert biscan

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    That is supposed to be a joke.
     
  21. Cherm

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    Absoultely... you really only paid for a "race". If 10 teams of Yugo´s showed up with F1 colors on the cars that´d be too bad as well. Afterall, no place on your ticket does it specifically define what a Formula One car actually is.

    Dumba**. You´d be looking for a little more "integrity" had you spent $4000 or $5000 to "watch" an Indy Ferrari "test session".

    You get what you pay for. F1 sucks.
     
  22. Turb0flat4

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    Don't be calling me dumbazz, dickhead.

    So your integrity has a price of $4 to 5 grand ? That's good to know.

    Go paint your face and follow wrestling, that's where you belong. Leave the F1 experience to the real fans.

    And, yes, I saw it on TV (I woke up at 3 am to watch this). If I had been anywhere near North America, I would have gone to see this in person. And no, I wouldn't be b!tching about trying to get my money back like some of you crybabies are.
     
  23. LetsJet

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    Tone it down..........

    This is a good thread......Don't f'it up with personal attacks. If you can't post without name calling just don't post.

    PM each other.
     
  24. tifosi12

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    Precisely. No name calling.
     
  25. Turb0flat4

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    Yup, sorry. I was provoked, but shouldn't have responded in kind.

    I still stand by my opinion though, even though the event was not as many had hoped for or expected (OK, it was a total failure, to be honest), I don't see why anyone deserves their money back. That's all.
     

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