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So where did the term "patina" originate?

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  1. J.P.Sarti

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    Patinia, a nice way of saying your car is all scratched and chipped up and needs a repaint, who thought of this term?

    Sounds like some kind of dip for vegetables.
     
  2. Darolls

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    Italian, from Latin, plate (from the incrustation on ancient metal plates and dishes).

    In other words, centuries ago some Italian guy selling VERY used plates & dishes, came up with the term to make his junk more saleable.

    It gave his wares an exotic tone!
     
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    It's the green stuff on copper caused by moisture/oxidation. The term has been expanded to describe "old". Humm...I guess I have patina..crap!
     
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    I am beginning ti understand now

    So many chips would be plural "patini"

    A big dent or smashed fender would be "patin-uggh"
     
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    lol! jeff, it's like the realtors version of the little shack w/ a stream running in front as being listed as "waterfront estate"!!
     
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    Until about 5 yrs ago, the only time I had ever heard the term "patina" was to describe the green color that develops on old, weathered architectural copper. Then, I started looking for a vintage Ferrari and heard it used to describe just about anything.
     
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    is someone else using their dictionary.com werd of the day feature on their google page or is this just some weird-ass coincidence where in nearly 30 years i've never noticed this werd yet it comes up twice in one day...? :p

    http://dictionary.reference.com/wordoftheday/archive/2006/04/20.html

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    Word of the Day for Thursday April 20, 2006

    patina \PAT-n-uh; puh-TEEN-uh\, noun:
    1. The color or incrustation which age gives to works of art; especially, the green rust which covers ancient bronzes, coins, and medals.
    2. The sheen on any surface, produced by age and use.
    3. An appearance or aura produced by habit, practice, or use.
    4. A superficial layer or exterior.
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    Actually its a little bit more than that. Patina = Dollars. Check out the Antique Road Show some time. Thats where you take your ancient end table, have it refinished removing the patina, and you lose a half a million dollars.
     
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    I thought this became a term some time prior to sexual harrassment suits.

    You could pat Tina!

    Now how things have changed, eh?

    Why I remember when harras was two words!
     
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    Not only in italian, in castilian or spanish(same thing) the word is also "patina".
     
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    I’ve spent many many hours putting the patina back on old refinished rifles.
    Simple process actually.
    Just take the piece in question, and add dirt, grime, oil, wax, crud, sunlight, humidity, ozone, and maybe a little blood, then just rub gently for 200 years.
    The process can be speeded up somewhat by rubbing faster.
     
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    Mate......Dude.....whatever!

    This is beyond 'weird-ass'; this is getting freaky!
     
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    ok i'll put on my gumboots and get the mustard jar out of the pantry....
     
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    Simple: I'd pay more for a car that's been obviously well-loved and maintained (as evidenced by an honest patina) than I would a car with obviously new paint (and other cosmetics).

    The first situation tells you that the car never got bad enough to need fresh cosmetics, the second assures you it did...

    Ditto for antique funiture, etc...

    Bill
     
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    "Patina" is good on antiques to show real aging & usage of a lacquered metal item. Like w/ brass microscopes from the 1800s which I collect. Such an effect is not usually desirable in a Ferrari's paint job.
     
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    I apply patinas to bronze sculptures all the time.....different colors require different chemicals. Many, many years ago, while in grad school, we were at a party at a friends house out in the country and he had just finished a bronze but had not added the patina yet. So we took the bronze out in the backyard and with all the beer at the party, the guys would just walk out to the backyard and relieve themselves on the bronze. A very cheap way to get a blue-green patina.
     
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    Originality has become increasingly important (and valuable) on colectibles form coins to cars. In the coin biz, patina normally refers to a very light layer of natural oxidation which varies depending on the metal. For heavier oxidation, we use the euphemism "tining" while most people would call it tarnish. Colorful, natural toning can drive collecors into frenzies with prices to match. On cars, we understand it to mean paint, leather, vinyl that has lost its new luster but is still in good shape. "Just honest wear".

    Dave
     

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