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So, will testarossa’s EVER go up in value?

Discussion in 'Boxers/TR/M' started by bpu699, May 15, 2024.

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  1. lagunacc

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    #151 lagunacc, Jun 15, 2024
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    Fortunately, I don't base my buying or selling decisions on "experts"' "expertise". I buy what I like within my cash budget.

    By and large "experts" show up at the party after others are already there and explain to everyone why everyone should be there.
    Ditto when it goes down. If the TR goes up it's because of all the cliches. If it goes down it's because of all the cliches.

    As for Europe, in one cliche: Per la serietà che ci contraddistingue i nostri prezzi sono solo "leggermente" trattabili.

    :)
     
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  2. lagunacc

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    #152 lagunacc, Jun 16, 2024
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    Try that in a Countach :)

     
  3. ants2au

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    I feel sorry for the diff center...

    if you really wanted to make a point, it should have outrun the chasing cars... which it didnt!!!

    I still love the car though...
     
  4. lagunacc

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    If he was driving a Countach at 100mph in reverse hanging on the door sill the movie would be called Guillotined.
     
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  5. Tim Rogers

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    I can honestly say that in 5 years of ownership I have never seen another actually driving on UK or European roads I drove mine down to south of France last month and and into Italy, a round trip of 1800 miles, the interest shown down there was insane. Everyone was clamoring to get a picture of it when we stopped at service stations, restaurants and hotels. Who ever it was on this thread who said that we would enhance the values if more of us got out there and drove them for other to see has a point. I think that the TR will have its day and for those who want to cash out now they will be in for a future shock.
     
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  7. lagunacc

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    bat is not a reliable market indicator.
     
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  8. LVP488

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    Aaldering is typically high on the asked prices, compared to others in Europe.
    Still, even if you remove 20% from the asked prices, that's a lot more than actual prices from the 2000s (when a testarossa was about EUR 50K).
     
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  9. desmomini

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    What do you recommend?
     
  10. MS250

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    My point was its all relative… its increasing because of inflation for all goods, not because its special. The bb is no better ..neither of those two cars have kept up with the dino or countash … as another point of reference, have you seen the prices of diablos lately.
     
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  11. lagunacc

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    Anyone can see what's already manifest.
    Unless you recommended Diablos when they were 100k your point is moot.

    Buying what already reached its potential is a bad investment.
     
  12. MS250

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    You have been on this site for 11 yrs already. Time to accept reality, the car is worthless. I had one for 20yrs, im trying to save you the heartache sooner than later. Nobody wants these things, not at these prices. Bring a trailer and auction houses have spoken, and those cars strong majority if not all are at the top of the market, not the middle or bottom. Carry on
     
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  13. lagunacc

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    You're using whatever stats fit your premise and you're not telling anyone what's not already obvious.
    Anyone can see what's already manifest.

    Personally, I like it for what it is, not what it's not.
    If it's worthless to you, make someone who doesn't have one a gift.
     
  14. MS250

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    Using Facts ! And Stats are facts.
    Heres another one for you ;
    look at every two seater 12 ferrari has ever made. The most expensive is the 250 gto, and the Testarossa is fighting at the basement, last place with the 599.

    With that said, enjoy the car for what it is - just stop telling people that it’s value is increasing and its going up. Its not, the car has been fighting last place in the ferrari 12 banger line up since 1998
     
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  15. lagunacc

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    #166 lagunacc, Jun 29, 2024
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    Sites that aggregate more sources over a longer period of time.

    The Bat stats you referenced give you 5 years with a 250k spread.
    Compare it with other models on Bat and it doesn't look so different.

    I don't see how you can deduce that the TR didn't "appreciate" because the BB didn't "appreciate" from that.

    There's a lot of bizarre stuff circulating about both cars.

    The TR is "worthless" because they made too many - production nrs for other models contradicts that.

    The TR is "worthless" because of the styling - M's and Spiders selling for .5mil-multi mil with similar styling contradicts that, as do certain TR sales.

    The TR is "worthless" because it drives like a truck, it's boring because it's too good, blabla - nonsense.

    The 328 is the "best" iteration of the 308 but the TR sucks? What?
    It's one of the best Ferrari's.
     
  16. lagunacc

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    You're compartmentalizing stats to fit your narrative and twisting what I said.

    I genuinely don't care where the price goes. Didn't say it will appreciate, although it obviously has along with everything else - like most models it's moving with the market.

    You're banging on its price, styling etc. Have at it, but don't expect everyone to agree.
     
  17. desmomini

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    Such as?
     
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    Say what you want but, after 35 years, my Testarossa is still a head turner and drives like a dream. Take pride from being able to afford the major services and from the annoyances of young admirers wanting to take photos. Chaz
     
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    It shows in real time what sold and for what price and what didn't. It keeps a data base going back to every car that was ever listed. If that's not reliable, what is?

    Joe
     
  23. lagunacc

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    If you read between the lines, fine. (always funny when something sells on Bat and it's still for sale)

    Otherwise, ask them how many shill bids they accept each day, how many accounts some of their "best" dealers have, and
    why some dealers are colluding.

    And don't take "we don't know" for an answer. They do.

    Might be useful and convenient, but it distorts the market, unless you pair it with other sources and are mindful of what goes on.
    Valid for other platforms also.

    And remember: paying more for something doesn't guarantee ...

    youtu.be/Di7R22fnsrI?t=731
     
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  24. Bradwilliams

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    Yep. These "fancy collector auction sites" do provide value as they cut out the larger buyer premiums that the big auctions charge. However, like the large auctions, they could care less about shill bidding, dealer colluding, et.

    The most common thing that these auctions do is manipulate results by changing prices after they end so that the market can look "as healthy as possible" and sometimes they will scrub results completely. Very unscrupulous. I've seen this happen over and over and over with the big ones but not BAT. The auctions for high end art and jewelry also pull this crap. If you really want to have some fun, contact the customer service after an auction becomes a "passed lot" (no bids) and watch the service rep lie their ass off about the lot selling for x dollars and is no longer available. Ask why they made up a result out of a thin air and watch how they treat you LOL.
     

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