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Discussion in 'Australia' started by James-NZ, Aug 9, 2009.

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  1. SPEEDCORE

    SPEEDCORE Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Yeah the way Greeks work, your uncle would give your dad a hard time and he would pay for it :p
     
  2. Tom Selek

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    Just put some Humus on it , it fixes everything.
     
  3. Aircon

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    so how much are those batteries anyway? and how many have had to be replaced so far, and at what mileage/age?
     
  4. Aircon

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    lol....so you guys DO pay attention!
     
  5. moretti

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    I didn't ... and paid the price :(
     
  6. 993TT s

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    I meant to ring you.........can I have a job?
     
  7. goober

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    it shows

    :)
     
  8. James-NZ

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    Got a response from the "partslocator" website, Gray from a shop in Victoria called "Wolfsburg Automotive/Audisport" has responded saying he has a reconditioned gearbox avalable to suit and it's $1200 exchange, I have emailed him to confirm the gearbox code and then we will look at shipping it.

    Anyone got a ball park on shipping costs?? $200ish?
     
  9. PSk

    PSk F1 World Champ

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    Still say best long term action is to take the car back and put a second hand g/box in and flick it ... probably cheaper for you as you will be able to sell it for more than you did to the relative.

    Next you will be on 24x7 call out for this dude.
    Pete
     
  10. wrxmike

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    I couldn't agree more , this is good advice. This is the cleanest, least hassle way to proceed, and you can take your time to find a gearbox at the right price.
    If he has already destroyed one gearbox in only 400km's , how long is the next one gunna last ? And then there is the clutch. You will be in the gun for anything that fails on this car, FOR EVER with this bloke.

    M
     
  11. goober

    goober F1 World Champ

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    especially if you are gunna marry into the clan............good advice, otherwise you will be reminded about it
     
  12. Modeler

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    Part of why I was interested in how the box failed was its implications for clutch and motor top end.
    Recently I was astonished to discover two adult relatives had no idea what their tachos indicated. They've driven for years with no thought about engine revs or what that dial was for and these guys drove manuals!
    Not wanting to wish anything worse into your mix but the box may not be the end of it, depending on how it all occurred.

    There's some sense in what the guys are suggesting. Take the hit but get off the hook.
     
  13. kerrari

    kerrari Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Wise words IMHO.
     
  14. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Nine Time F1 World Champ
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    I wouldnt do anything for him. :D:D

    Car comes with concrete warranty. ;);)

    But IF I were to do something, then I would follow your advice Pete. :):)


    +4! :eek::eek:
     
  15. James-NZ

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    OK, this sounds like a reasonable idea, but what about the broken gearbox? The car had no problems when I sold it, if I take it back am I wearing the cost of a replacement gearbox? Or would I ask that he contribute to the repairs?

    Sounds clean on the face of it but I think taking the car back is just as messy. I would then have to withhold some of the money he gave me for the car, to cover part of the repair cost. Then I didn't give him a full refund, or if I do give a full refund I am out of pocket $2k+ for a broken gearbox that I am not responsable for.

    It might just be the best way though, I can recover some of the gearbox cost in the "retail" price for the car, this could work.
     
  16. Aedo

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    NO NO NO - if you go down this route you take it back and give him back the money he gave you. You just have to suck up the repair bill and hope that selling it on the open market gets you a better price than you sold it to him for (making up some of the repair cost).

    Doing it this way will remove all doubt as to you being a great bloke and there can be no comebacks.
     
  17. wrxmike

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    Exactly, wise words. Don't bother chasing him for a co-contribution.
    Give him back all his money, and sort the car out at your convenience, then flick it.


    BTW, you do of course realise that no matter what you, it will look bad - here's the reasoning.

    You sold him the car cheap - because you knew it was gunna fail, and
    You refunded his money without any drama, because you had a guilty conscience, because you knew it was gunna fail

    Or you offered to pay 1/2 ( or whatever) of the repair, because you sold him a dud car and knew it was gunna fail and had a guilty conscience about it.

    The fact that he possibly contributed to the destruction of the gearbox, didn't notice the smell of burning oil, the noises from the gearbox and whatever other signs of impending disaster while he drove for 400k's will be convienientluy forgotten, because you sold him a dud car.

    M
     
  18. goober

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    my four F's of business
     
  19. Aircon

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    I've done plenty of business with friends over the years. Never had a problem. There's no point generalising.
     
  20. goober

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    then what happened to phil?
     
  21. PSk

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    Exactly.

    Unfortunately you are taking a hit which ever way ... either with half the cost of repairs or the full cost (which as Aedo says you might get some back when you sell).

    Some people are car destroyers ... a perfectly reliable car just falls to bits around them. I also made the mistake of getting involved with helping a friend and my sisters purchase cars, of course they turned out to be pieces of cr@p. I've now gone so far that if somebody asks me I deliberately steer them away from cars I am considered an enthusiast over ... otherwise it will be "Pete knows about those ..."
    Pete
     
  22. Aircon

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    lol...that's one person i'm very happy to say was never a friend. what a loser.
     
  23. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Nine Time F1 World Champ
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    Tell us what you really think!! :p:p
     
  24. b27

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    I didn't think you had any.

    Oh I see, thats why you've had no problems.
     
  25. Aircon

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    lol

    shaddap.....i'd have save YOU a fortune!
     

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