Some definitive 360 production numbers-----------

Let's see how these things compare.

The 360 is the first model of this chassis: 17500 all forms.

348/355 all versions was ~ 18152 (8857 348's).

Guessing that Ferrari will make more F430's before they go on to the next platform, I'm guessing around 20k of them will be made.

Flip them while you can if that's your game. They're going to depreciate just like everything else.

 

This is actually interesting information. So it seems the production runs are as follows (in round figures):

- 348: 9,000
- 355: 9,000
- 360: 17,500 (10,000 coupes / 7,500 Spider)
- 430: 20,000 (10,000 coupes / 10,000 Spiders) (estimated)

They must have really cranked up production for the 360 spiders, because they only had 25% less 360 spiders than coupes, despite the spiders having only half the production life of the coupes.

Anybody have the production numbers for coupe / spider split for the 348 and 355?

 

Erik, what you are not including in your calculus is the increase on the demand side. Simply put, there are more willing buyers, i.e., aging baby boomers, in 2005 than there were back in the late 80s and early 90s when Ferrari was selling 348s/355s.

From my discussion with dealers, the first F430s are going to flip for anywhere from $50k to $100k over. In fact, the flip price might be higher because it is looking like so few cars are going to be filpped. Almost all of the initial cars are going to end users. So the situation will be similar to the Enzo.

Moreover, 360 prices, after dropping $10k or so, have firmed up, particularly for the coupes.

Dale

 

What are these...Challenge cars (how many of those are out there)? What about the NGTs, are they included in the race cars or are they even included in 360 production numbers?

Just wondering...

Joe C.

 

LOL, it's the "end user" that does the flipping. As we've already seen from the OC deliveries, the "end user" flips it, and dealer takes their commission. And, they are indeed flipping already!

 

That's not what I'm hearing. Namely, the first buyers are planning on hanging onto their cars. Sure, some are going to flip, but not all.

Dale

 

In addition to the above confirmed cases, a couple of my friends plan to do the same with theirs when they come before the silly premium dries up. They also really want the Spider instead and doing the coupe flip now while the silly premium is attached helps them further in obtaining an earlier Spider allocation.

 

True, but when you aging boomers need to go into nursing homes, who is going to buy them? The kids are going to have to sell them to pay your bills.

Short term looks firm, long term looks like any other car.

 

Geeze, how old do you think I am? (Don't answer that.) I have at least another 20 years before I pull a HST.

Dale

 

While we are tallying up, does anyone have a breakdown of how many cars of each color were made? for 355 or 360?

 

355 production numbers:
Berlinetta GTS Spider
6 Speed Gear Box 3829 2048 2664
F1 Gearbox 1042 529 1053
11165 total

Sources:
http://www.ferrariforum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3386
http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40129

The point of the EVO interview is that spiders sell consistently more than coupes, which is interesting.

 

2,895 = 348 TB
4,230 = 348 TS
0,252 = 348 GTB
0,137 = 348 GTS
1,090 = 348 Spider
0,050 = 348 GT Competizione

4,915 = 355 Berlinetta
2,577 = 355 GTS
3,714 = 355 Spider

 

That is way bizarre... when I responded to this thread, the vast majority of the posts I see now were NOT showing up... and when my post went in, it was still the same... mine was like the fourth post in the thread... at least that's how it appeared at that moment. Weird.