Source for original Bosch MAF (element only)?

I don't think any genuine unit is available without the main body.

I certainly don't think you'll find one sealed in a Bosch box with the anti-fraud verification code still on it.

Suggest you just order the full item from a reputable source and eat the extra few bucks over the dodgy offers.

 

I looked for a source of ONLY the insert and I couldn't find one. It seems that it is shared with the Saturn LS and other cars.. but tough to find and correlate 100%

 

I purchased a pair from eBay a while ago. "Genuine" "OEM" etc etc. Came without the box. Asked why and was told it was for shipping. Asked how I was to confirm authenticity and they gave me some codes to type into the official Bosch site. Ok, I thought, I'll try that - the Bosch site reported they were "good" codes.

Sill suspicious, I emailed Bosch and they told me that one of the codes I had used had been entered to their verification site over 30 times and the other one had been used over 15.

Paypal resolution to the rescue!

 

Its difficult to find just the insert itself, OE Bosch I mean.

For reference, here are the MAF part numbers for the 360:

Ferrari P/N: 171707
The same MAF with Bosch part number: 0 280 218 012.
They are identical except for the box. Ferrari box vs. Bosch Box.
Do not buy the cheap imitation / Chinese made non Bosch parts. The build is not the same.

MAF insert part number: BOSCH F00 C2G 2030.
Its very difficult to find just the insert (brand new)

Original Ferrari 360 MAF part number 171707 is about $750.00 each.
FerraRicambi - 171707

Same part in a Bosch Box P/: 0 280 218 012 = about $210.00.
Ferrari F 360 Honda MG Rover Bosch Mass Air Flow Sensor MAF 2 0 3 6L 1995 2012 | eBay

Hope that helps.

Dan
Image Unavailable, Please Login
Image Unavailable, Please Login
Image Unavailable, Please Login

 

I work for Cardone Industries - we re-manufacture these and have airflow testers for these units, if you'd like to have your suspicious units tested.

 

There was a post that listed other cars that use the same Ferrari MAF sensor with part number for that car. Not sure which thread had this but I wrote them down:

Bosch - 0 280 218 012

Honda - 16400-PDD-X00
Rover - MHK101070
Ferrari - 171707

I went to RockAuto.com, punched in the Honda part number and CAMIARE VE700145 came up and a price of $64.79 USD each. With FedEx International Priority shipping, the total came to $166.65. They were shipped from the UK. I compared the with my old sensors that had Bosch molded into the housing. There were other number that matched, but the new ones were blank in the mold plug (removable section of the mold where different logo/numbers can be inserted). I looked at the sensor themselves and they were similar but the new one had an extra hole molded in. As far as I can tell, they are 'the same' as OEM Ferrari.

I was able to take the car out today and do the ECU relearning drive sequence. The car runs Great!!!!!! So far no issues.

Happy Driving!!!!!

Left side are the new, right side the old. I use the blue tape to make a tighter fit (less air leakage) with the air filter cover connection.
Image Unavailable, Please Login
Image Unavailable, Please Login
Image Unavailable, Please Login

 

So take the new element out of the CAMBIARE VE700145 and toss it into the original housing would work, no?

 

That's what I was thinking.....

 

Looks to me for $150 +/- you can have new (rebuilt) MAFs (vs. $1500 for 2 new Ferrari parts) and maintain originality by keeping the OEM housings, which never wear out.. or am I missing something?

 

You can easily pick up genuine Bosch replacements with housings for way less than $1500

 

I checked eBay and found these:

Ferrari F 360 Honda MG Rover Bosch Mass Air Flow Sensor MAF 2 0 3 6L 1995 2012 | eBay

Bosch Luftmassenmesser Luftmengenregler MAF Sensor 0280218012 Rover MG Honda | eBay

Mass Air Flow Sensor Rover Honda MG Ferrari 0280218012 171707 16400PDDX00 Torx | eBay

Honda Ferrari Rover Mass Air Flow Meter MAF | eBay

Rover MG Honda Accord Ferrari Orig Bosch Caudalimetro 0280218012 | eBay

Difficult indeed to find a seller that sells the insert only made original by BOSCH. And even when they do, its almost the same price as the complete set with housing.

Dan

 

As said above, if you have original Bosch housing, just swap the sensor insert. I just may do this myself, I won't tell anyone!!!

 

Have an original elements

 

I'm curious to know what's the problem with your OEM one? I had a bad MAF and managed to just replace the thermistor for $1.00 USD. See here.

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/360-430/447868-diy-360-fix-your-maf-less-than-%241-00-a.html

 

There's more than a thermister in a MAF but? Mostly it's the heating element that goes bad I would say.

 

I agree.

Here's an excellent explanation about MAF's.

Dan

Pelican Technical Article: Troubleshooting and Replacing the Boxster Mass Air Flow Sensor (MAF) - 986 / 987


My experience with MAF's are the same.

 

I really don't understand the penny pinching here. Original Bocsh MAFs can be bought for as little as $150 (£100) from any authorised Bosch dealer. I bought a pair last week for a customers car - £212 for the pair including tax and delivery.

At that price is really doesn't make sense to try and scrimp a small saving. Don't forget that although these units are used in "lesser" cars they wont be operating under the same conditions. Try revving a Honda Civic to 8,500 rpm!

 

+1, couldn't agree more...it isn't worth the time and effort experimenting with non Bosch parts. Seen it over on the E39 M5 forums, where people were trying various brands, even Bosch, but from a VW, that everyone claimed was identical to the M5 Bosch MAF. Until someone started doing back to back dyno runs with them.....only the correct Bosch MAF delivered the most HP and TQ.

 

I'm going to stock up. Do you have any links?

 

+1

Can you share a link on where to purchase original Bosch MAF's for $150.00 please?

Thanks in advance.

Dan

 

I suspect you guys also have them, but we have shops called motor factors. I just called up my local one and gave them the Bosch part number. It took a day to get them in and they even dropped them off in their little van.

The part number is 0 280 218 012

 

MAFs can easily be repaired ..... is only one wire that has to be replaced ...

 

The number of the inner item which should be changed is f00c 2g2 030 for 360.
There are lots of sellers in ebay (only internal part), stay away from no name items, most probably your car will run fine but will not exceed 120 km/h with these no names. Or you should first introduce that part to the ECU.
No need for it,go for bosch item. it is easy plug n play item!
If you insist on buying whole MAFall these numbers below use the same internal part (Please just re-confirm the numbers it with your local Bosch supplier or with google before ordering it). You have to uninstall it and re install it to your old maf's cover (attention you need a different torx type screw driver -you can find it on ebay etc.- or sharp edge small gripper!!!).
Bosch 0 280 217 531
Bosch 0 280 218 001
Bosch 0 280 218 004
Bosch 0 280 218 019
Bosch 0 280 218 045
Bosch 0 280 218 108
Bosch 0 281 002 182
Bosch 0 281 002 199
Bosch 0 281 002 207
Bosch 0 281 002 208
Bosch 0 281 002 308
Bosch 0 281 002 309

i.e. I upgraded my 360 mafs to f430 with 430TBs, i bot item from ordinary fiat - alfa romeo part supplier as alfa 156 1.9 JTD bosch maf sensor. its exactly the same item with same number f00c 2g2 044 and wihle the ferrari px was around 350€ ea in Turkey, i bot 2 pieces at 180€ as fiat,alfa 1.9 jtd part. To be honest I learned that it was same with Lada niva 1.7 ie, i am sure that if I ask for Lada,I can pay 50-60€ less. Anyway I found 2 not working f430 mafs and transfer the inner parts of 1.9 jtd mafs to the f430 shell. Voila!!! it is running great.
Outer shell is not important and no need to pay for it if you can supply only the inner part.
Regardless of the diameter these internal parts calculate the total CFM and let the max air flow according to their pre-loaded program.

 

Upgrade to CS MAF's You can find them on ebay for a descent price.