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  1. Ingpr

    Ingpr F1 Rookie

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    Do anyone knows what are these codes?
    P1324
    P1124
    P0455
     
  2. Mitch Alsup

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  3. Ingpr

    Ingpr F1 Rookie

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    These three codes are for today. Saturday the car had 7 related with misfiring in different cylinders. Any idea if all the codes are related?

    Thanks in advance!
     
  4. rustybits

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    two of the codes are, the other i would tend to ignore.
    P1324-alignment between camshaft and crank signal ( iwould ignore this one for the moment)
    P1124-Long term fuel trim additive air

    P0455-evap emmision control

    The second code basicaly means that the fuel trim has been altered a lot on one bank (bank 1 in this case) and gone out of it's specification. Commonly, this fault is triggered by an air leak or a bad Lambda sensor. In your case, i believe the first of these two is the cause, as the other code is one often flagged when there is an air leak on the evap system. More common in spiders than Modenas, but there is a vent pipe from the top of the tank which breaks. If you lift the engine lid after the engine has become hot, you can very often smell a faint smell of fuel vapour on the affected side, if you sniff around front end of the engine near the engine bay side panel. I would start looking down this route first, and i would start by inspecting the bank on the right as that's the bank the long term fuel trim issue is on.
     
  5. Ingpr

    Ingpr F1 Rookie

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    I'm getting the P1324 and P1124 more often than before.
    Now every time I turn the car on the two codes show up. When I scan it and erase the codes the car rus just normal and the codes don't show up until I turn it off/on again.
    Something I notice when I'm erasing the codes is how the iddle change in about 3 seconds.
    Do anyone knows what sensors are involve in?
    Any ideas?
     
  6. FerrariDublin

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    Presume you already have this........?

    P1124
    Long Term Fuel Trim Additive Air System too Lean (max)
    1 Check the fuel pressure
    2 Check HC CO emission with no lambda integrator
    3 Check injector and wiring
    4 check ignition coil and wiring
    5 check exhaust system leakage

    P1324
    Alignment Between Camshaft and Crankshaft Signal Mech. Adjusted (min/max)
    1 Check the wiring, PG3 sensor
    2 Check crankshaft signal and Camshaft
    signal with oscilloscope
    -------------- -------------FG3
    - - - - - - - DG
    Number of teeth has to be 60-2
    2 Check Crankshaft signal and Camshaft signal with oscilloscope when variable camshaft is active

    Are you having any symptoms and if so can you describe them?

    You mention resetting the codes and they come back quick. I had a problem a while ago whereby as soon as I reset codes they came back almost immediately. That problem turned out to be two fuses blown.
     
  7. Ingpr

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    Thanks Greg!
    Now that you mention the fuse I had a problem some time ago with some fuses.
    I will check it just in case.
     
  8. Ingpr

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    #8 Ingpr, Feb 3, 2013
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    These damn codes are driving me crazy!
    Specially the P1324!
    The car has new belts with new variator.
    New cams phase sensors
    I clean the very dirty crank "angolar" sensors
    And the code still coming!
    Also I notice that bank 1 is 170 deg hotter than bank2
    Any ideas?
     
  9. FerrariDublin

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    What temps are you getting on each side?

    At full operating temperature I generally measure about 350~380C (660~720F) measuring close to the output from the heads (this is on stock manifold/headers).
     
  10. Rifledriver

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    Simple

    Cam timing is off.


    Evap code is unrelated.
     
  11. fmaderi

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    #11 fmaderi, Feb 4, 2013
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    Who said you don't need. An SD to change t belts.....surprised to see variators changed these days. .do you do it in the car or remove the cams... If it was an early car. They should have mArked the cal head with VD if they where updated.. It's been 6 years since I've done one.
     
  12. Michael B

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    I completely agree, but I was thinking cam variator issue was the cause.

    This has been going on for over two years? Did I get that right?
     
  13. Ingpr

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    This is just insane!
    The dealer and an independent mechanic checked the timing and its ok!
    New cam sensors, new crank sensors, new cables, new battery!!!
    What in the hell should be???
    The EUC??
     

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