So 320k 380k original msrp? Have you seen one for 320k asking yet? Would be interested in one for that depending on the specs. Thanks!
The Speciale and 675LT are the current benchmarks for a track focused mid-engined V8 supercar. If you're in the market for this segment, consider that a low mileage 2015 is around the same price as a new 675LT. The Speciale may not be as fast, but I think it will retain better value and is an opportunity to own the ultimate NA V8 from Ferrari. The LT is the beginning of a new era involving turbochargers and near hyper car like performance at a supercar price. If you want LT speed, there will soon be others to choose from (488 Speciale, GT2 RS).
I recalled the MSRP was $317K on a non-stripe, low spec Speciale that the asking was $380K. It has been sold. I have bought a couple of cars above MSRP in the past and all have dropped well below the MSRP a few years down the road. We have all seen it before (996 turbo, i8, GT-4, GT3RS, Scuderia...etc. yes, I know they are not the last Ferrari NA v8). I don't think Speciale is any different but mean no disrespect to any Speciale owners. I simply choose to wait and see instead of buying now.
Why would a next gen Spider affect prices for last-gen track-day cars? It's also not even consistent across all the cars. 430: Sept 2004 430 Spider: March 2005 458: Sept 2009 458 Spider: Sept 2011 488: Feb 2015 488 Spider: Sept 2015
I've been saying this very thing for years on this board but many seem to think that Ferraris "appreciate".. apparently because CS, Scuds and other such cars have come off their bottom price up to closer to MSRP. I have a Speciale and as I've said 100+ times.. I really don't care what the price is.. I'm keeping my car forever. I've got 6K miles on it so far and I plan at least another 25K in the next 2 years. All the speculation on prices is fun to watch but 95% of those commenting don't own, haven't owned or will never own a Ferrari.. They just like talking about other people's cars.
there is no doubt in my mind that the amaziale is the very best car i have owned from ferrari. it's safer, drives better, and is aesthetically pleasing. i bought one to drive. short term, i don't really care, i love this thing. my previous favorite car was my f50 but in retrospect, i would take four amaziale's over another f50 in a heartbeat. i think 5-10 years from now they are 750k+
I think there is proof that the 16M and Speciale A were good investments that can also be driven. While it is only paper profits as I do not intend to sell them, each has gone up in value since my acquisition and each sells above their MSRP after both age and miles. Clearly, limited edition Ferraris are an anomaly to the average car. Having said that, on this forum, to say no car or 99% of cars are not investments is sort of ignoring the fact this is a Ferrari board, not a Dodge Dart board.
Because the timing of those cars released coincided with the fall off in pricing of the previous models track versions. Look it up. Strange but true.
There were two for sale at FoSF last year. The Rosso corsa w nart stripe one sold for just under $320k, just under 5k miles, exterior carbon, no engine bay carbon, no telemetry, 2-owners. The other one was a grigio, zero carbon, very basic, not sure what it sold for but it was asking for $320k.
Till today the Speciale is much more price stable than the Scuderia was in its comparable lifecycle. When the Speciale came out the Scuderias were available 40%-50% under MSRP. I guess the 458 Italia was able to press down the Scuderia prices, now it seems the 488 GTB isn't able to do that with the Speciale. Do we see new rules? Is the Speciale so special? I don't know. I guess not only the shares have become more volatile, also the super car market. While the prices of truly limited supercars raise to skyrocket many people are speculating on quasi limited cars like the Speciale. IMO the mid term price development of the Speciale depends heavily on its successor.
You make great points but you left out that the Scud had to endure the financial crisis. That had a big impact on values. Today some say we have the opposite- a bubble that is possibly propping up values. As I think it was Acidshort said, this is all speculation but I agree with you guys on what happens next will mostly depend on the 488 "S". I tend to think the Speciale will depreciate a bit and find a happy place between the current values and where the Scuds are. And then the 488 S will come out and we will see.... Come back in 10 years and I bet its holding up pretty well.
Like I said early in the near term (less than 3 years) it will probably drop to MSRP or a bit below...in the medium term (5 - 7 years out) it will be back where it is now. Thats not a very good investment if thats what your asking. If you plan on holding it 10 years and never driving it I suspect it will be an excellent investment...
Don't forget Speciale is the last NA special edition V8. For those of us who don't like turbos on Ferraris, that matters. PS - Nobody should even try to form an "opinion" on a Speciale, or it's "value," until after they've driven one. How can you share an "opinion" of a certain type of food unless you've eaten it? How can you share a viable opinion on a car unless you've driven it?
I had my eye on the rosso one but I thought it was listed for much higher. Around 360k. Didn't realize it sold that low at 320k. Thanks. I would have definitely bought it for 320k. I think it only had 6000 miles
I personally didn't appreciate the sound of the 488, until recently. I really start to like it. there is more a kind of a muscle car undertone in the exhaust sound. So if more people like me start to appreciate the sound above that of the 458, that might have an effect too on valuation.
I was lucky enough to get an Aperta allocation. I think pound for pound its the MOST fun road car I have ever experienced. No plans to sell it but I found my f12 was sitting more and more and the SA was getting driven almost daily. So I decided to pick up a Speciale and sold the f12. My first track day in the coupe will be this Friday at CotA and I cannot wait! There will be faster more competent cars every year and if you are someone that needs the statistical latest and greatest - the Speciale is likely not for you. However if you want a very engaging beautifully styled mid engine exotic I don't think you could make a better decision. Maybe they start to slow down but the separation from the standard 458 has clearly already happened and that has to be a good sign for the future. Granted mine will be a high milage example soon so I'll likely not fare as well as the garage queens! Image Unavailable, Please Login
Nice Speciale! Love it. No stripe Painted roof looks like? Beauty. I'd have to concur. Monstrous ride. Drive it in good health. Mine gets appreciated daily!
And by "Drive" .. you have to DRIVE it.. like on a track, at the limit. Not in sport/auto around the neighborhood.
