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Discussion in '458 Italia/488' started by DM1, Jan 21, 2018.

  1. Clay512TR

    Clay512TR Karting
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    You can...I just said I don’t try because I know what they are worth and I pay fair price to ensure no stories and I get what options etc. I want.


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  2. BJK

    BJK Formula Junior

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    Does anyone have 'real' experience with matte finish paint. Would you not be worried or stay away ?
     
  3. socialpro1

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    My daily is an RS7 with factory matte finish. Definitely more inconvinience in terms of washing - BUT at the same time there is no need to buff / polish / wax the car.

    NO swirls in the paint ever as well. Yes - scratches do accumulate and show up over time, and no way to get them out. Also I do not have any first hand experience in doing bodywork on this paint finish. But outside of all the cons - I would say that having a matte finish probably yields me the most happiness about this car. Makes it that much more unique.

    If the car is NOT a daily driver, and mostly a garage queen - I would mostly hands down go with the matte paint option if thats an option.

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  4. BJK

    BJK Formula Junior

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    GREAT looking car. Love the matte finish, BUT, yeah - not being able to remove scuffs and scratches would bother me over time. Thanks for your reply.
     
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  5. iloveferrari

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    If I have the extra money, I will buy this one in a heart beat
     
  6. iloveferrari

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    I view buying a car as another business transaction. Not negotiating in a business transaction is unexpected, unless you are in a very weak position. To me, it seems like you must really like the car and that's why you don't negotiate price. But negotiating price does not mean we are buying a Nissan. That statement of yours is actually quite elitist and asinine simultaneously. Lol, of course we are talking about the used car here.
     
  7. Nel1

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    My Speciale has all the interior, exterior and engine bay matte carbon similar to this car. I am pretty sure that all the matte carbon was about $17k extra. Is hard to tell the exact number as the matte carbon was bundled with other stuff under “Special Features”.
    Hope this helps.


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  8. wasax.rc

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    I have had two, Matte SL550 and Matte Lambo Huracan. I LOVE THE look hate scratch/scuff problem. Yes you don't have to wax or swirl but you get a scratch and the whole area is a repaint. My wife drives the 550, you can imagine after a year or so.....Anyway love the idea hate the execution.
     
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  9. Clay512TR

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    You obviously don’t know me or you would know I am neither elitist or asinine and quite frankly I take your comments as combative and ignorant. Negotiate away...you are the kind of Ferrari buyer who brags more about the price you paid rather than the quality of the purchased vehicle. Attack someone else loser.


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  10. iloveferrari

    iloveferrari Formula Junior

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    Really not interested in arguing with individuals online. But still gotta say this : so in your mind, buying a Nissan or Ford means discounted sale price and buying a used Ferrari should not involve price negotiation. And since we wanted to negotiate about the price, you suggested us to go buy a Nissan and Ford. In fact you are the one who brags about paying whatever the dealer asked.

    You still don't think this is elitist and asinine!?

    Ok. You win. You are not an elitist and you are smart, simply because I don't know you, like you said.
     
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  11. freshmeat

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    You know you can always just apply a matte clear bra over a non-matte car...and when the fad is over just take it off, all the while protecting the original factory paint. Win-win imho.
     
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  12. Nel1

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    Yup.
    It is also an option to put matte film over the car’s matte finish and protect it vs scratches. That is what my cousin did in his matte black Aventador and it looks pretty good with low risk of damage.


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  13. ylshih

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    #238 ylshih, Aug 11, 2018
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    7-day thread bans each for attacking the other.
     
  14. Solid State

    Solid State F1 Rookie
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    Maybe someone loveferrari a bit too much!!
     
  15. plastique999

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    My LP670SV is factory matt black. I have satin clear bra over the whole car...pretty much no maintenance.


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  16. LARRYH

    LARRYH F1 Veteran
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    You can make virtually any paint have a matt finish with matt expel film ..or you can turn a matt car into a gloss finish with the std gloss film..
    I had a friend put the matt film on a new gt4 it looked nice
     
  17. MrRdStr

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  18. Luk77

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    #243 Luk77, Aug 28, 2018
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    Under MRSP, maybe too spec or because of the spec (personally I don’t like it).

    Generally, modern Ferrari did’t perform well at last auctions. 599 GTO (2 above 500k$, 1 not sold)), F430 16M (270k$) and F430 Scuderia (190k$) they were at “low” value. However, I don’t know the status of these cars.

    The only surprising car, at least for me, is the 575 super America manual gearbox above 900k$... just because is manual... Then 599 SA aperta above 1M$, but It is more understandable.
     
  19. twist-a-grip

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    Even though it has the heftiest MSRP I've ever seen, the extra cost is all in the matte carbon and paint - pretty plain jane car without the matte bits. I think the car is really cool looking, but too much of a hassle to maintain and I'm not sure it will age well. I wouldn't buy it. Awesome car, just too unique/peculiar to get a crazy auction number, so I think $385k (possibly $423,500 after auction fees/commission) is a strong number on this car and makes me feel pretty happy about my purchase price last summer.
     
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  20. obbob

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    Aug 14, 2017
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    Quite a few Speciale have sold the past month. For a car that usually takes a long time to sell, that's a lot of activity in the market, especially since it's not like prices are significantly lower than before, and the Pista is just around the corner
     
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  21. Horsin'around

    Horsin'around Karting

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    Any new owners willing to share their purchase price?


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  22. Horsin'around

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    Any new owners willing to share their purchase price?


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  23. plastique999

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    Not that I saw any Speciale at RM in Monterey but market seemed quite soft....there was a 599GTO that sold on the block for $500k.
    F40 sold for $1.5....another bid up to $900k, no sale....
    LaFerrari sold for $3mil, I have a friend who bought one little over year ago for $4mil.


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  24. dustman

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    TDF similar.
     
  25. jason1st

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    There are too many "collectible cars".
     

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