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  1. bottomline

    bottomline Formula 3

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    So.... my father got a speeding ticket. He's 56~ and he's never had one in his whole life. He doesn't believe he was speeding. Is there a good chance he'll get it dropped with a perfect record?

    One thing that's weird is that the cop went back to his car, and when he came back, my dad just asked him if he looked at his record, and all the cop said was, "I didn't look at your record; I just wanted to see if you had an outstanding warrant."

    Maybe he thought my dad was a terrorist! :eek:

    lol
     
  2. gentry

    gentry Guest

    they will always run warrant checks.

    If he is SURE he didnt speed, then go to court. Chances are his record will make for a good argument to have it dismissed. If he did speed, just pay the ticket.
     
  3. MikeZ_NJ

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    Can't say I agree with that, at least here in NJ. Always fight it; most of the time you'll get a reduction in points AT THE VERY LEAST. Sometimes they'll drop the points. This can literally save thousands in insurance.
     
  4. redhead

    redhead F1 Rookie

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    Also not true.

    The do not ALWAYS run warrant checks. Some departments do, but since we do not know where this was, we can not say.

    I would suggest going to court. If the cop does show up, at least normally the judge will reduce the fine/points.

    Good Luck.
     
  5. BWS550

    BWS550 Wants to be a mod

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    they will always run warrant checks.''


    I DISAGREE....GENTRY...GO BACK TO SELLING AIRPLANES OR BUSINESS DEALS...WRONG AGAIN...................
     
  6. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    This is hogwash... Rampage, ALWAYS fight a ticket; ALWAYS... Even if you get pulled over doing 150 and they haul your ass off to jail, STILL fight the ticket... With a perfect record, your dad should be able to slip right out of this... DEFINITELY fight it... ABSOLUTELY. Definitely. No question about it. Don't even give it another thought. Check not guilty on that bad boy, send it in and wait for them to mail you back a hearing date. Let us know how you fair with those revenue agent bastards... Good luck...
     
  7. tvrfreak

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    Bruce, are you and your pals going to follow Gentry around from thread to thread, mocking him? It's getting old. :(

    Hope you enjoyed Florida. :)
     
  8. redhead

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    How do you really feel?

    No, really?...I mean.....let it all out.
     
  9. bottomline

    bottomline Formula 3

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    Thank you Mike, Bruce,NNO, and redhead for your input! I will definitely have him fight it.

    This where I got my first ticket, but I WAS speeding. Every person in my neighborhood, that I know, has been pulled over SOMETIME in that exact spot. It's such a trap... What's funny is that it's easily visible. lol
     
  10. BWS550

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    FLORIDA WAS GOOD, AND THANKS FOR YOUR KIND WORDS IN THE "MERGER THREAD"


    GENTRY LIES ABOUT EVERYTHING........RIGHT MR AIRPLANE SALEMAN....
     
  11. tvrfreak

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    Stirampage, it's relatively easy to fight a speeding ticket. And if your dad feels it was unwarranted, he should definitely fight it. He has nothing to lose and everything to gain, so why not? The only thing I can think of is the time and hassle. Hopefully those are outweighed by the potential gain (insurance premium, driving record, etc.). Best case is if the cop doesn't show up, but make sure you prepare a good defense. This is more than "he said, she said, your honour, I wasn't speeding." Get some books, research it on the web, and if you feel it's worth it, get an attorney.

    Bruce, we have people who have lied and gotten caught (Matteo, Jonas, etc.) and we have accepted them back. So far as I know, it hasn't been proven that Gentry was lying. He has simply chosen not to respond to his challengers, which I can respect. In fact, I wish I had his self-control.

    So, unless it's proven that he's lying, why the continual harrassment? Even if it is proven that Gentry was lying about the airplane, this is a completely unrelated topic.

    Also, interesting sig. What's that all about? Who do you have close to you these days? :)
     
  12. Mike360

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    The standard checks that are run here in Australia when you get pulled over:

    LSC License check. This checks to see if your current drivers license is valid and up to date, Also details any driving conditions that you have on your license (Glasses,Provisional Drivers etc...). Also checks the history on file with the police for you, and dispatch will advise if caution is to be taken. If you have a warrant for an arrest, then you WILL NOT BE ARRESTED.
    Only the officers who issued the warrant can arrest you unless given proper authority. Otherwise the involved officers will be notified. Most of the time they will take you into the station for questioning... until the correct officers show up. And BTW Federal police have authority to serve warrants, under any circumstance.

    CNI check. This runs the registration of the vehicle which details its make and color, and also the current owner of the vehicle. It also states if the car is reported stolen.
     
  13. 4i2fly

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    Bijan,

    I am not familiar with Colorado's vehicle code nor do I know of your father's speeding ticket circumstances. But it pays to read and/or consult with a lawyer regarding the dismissal. I personally think speeding tickets are unlawful and only to generate revenue. And as some already have said fight the ticket. If you have to go to court there is a good chance the officer does not show up, it has happened to me three times. FIGHT THE TICKET, at a minimum with a reasonable judge he will get a break on his fine.
     
  14. bottomline

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    Thats TVR and Mike! :)

    Gentry isn't lying, but I don't care anymore, anyways, and I don't think Gentry does either.
     
  15. judge4re

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    You and I have disagreed on things in the past and I'm cool about it. Why the harrassment? Let's look at this thread:

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=38775

    I don't mind people not responding to challenges about how big their checkbook really is, but for fnck's sake, don't come on f'chat asking for a recommendation for a used car dealer and not tell us what kinda fncking car you're looking for.

    Cheers,
    Erik

    we now return you to discussing stir's dad's ticket...
     
  16. BWS550

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    GOOD POINT ERIK...JUST PLAIN VOMIT AT THE MOUTH, GARBLEY GOOK....


    BTW FAISEL, I ACCEPTED NOBODY BACK.....A LIAR IS ALWAYS A LIAR!!!!


    BRUCE
     
  17. Seth

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    if you just dont care to take the time yourself, get a lawyer to fight it and your record will be clean! i have done it several times, costly, but easy, shouldnt be between $150-$500 depending on the type of ticket.
     
  18. bottomline

    bottomline Formula 3

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    Yeah, I'm still figuring out the cost ration of hiring a lawyer. For such a tiny ticket, and the strong fact that I believe it will be wiped, I don't think it will be cost effective.


    Excuse my ignorance, but where did TVR harass judge?
     
  19. LAfun2

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    He didn't, as far as I know.

    This is how it is supposed to be read, I think. I think you may have just read it wrong. :)

    TVR said to BRUCE:
    JUDGE answered TVR's question to BRUCE

    So basically, Judge was answering TVR as to why Gentry is getting harrassed.

    Hope you got all that cleared up. :) :)
     
  20. tesseract

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    Please. If you break a law - own up to it. A large problem in this society is that not many people will take responsibility for their actions. Most laws exist for a good reason. If you don't agree with them - fine - go somewhere else - Sierra Leone is looking for immigrants. Otherwise, recognize that you are wrong, pay the penalty and then go about the rest of your life. Maybe if we didn't burden the court sytem with BS traffic cases, we could actually put criminals in jail less than two years after their crimes.

    As for this particular case - examine the situation, then assess why a police officer would pull over a middle-aged man and charge him for speeding for no apparent reason. I do not know of many officers that will pull anyone over doing much less than 25% over the speed limit - they know they can wait two more minutes to find someone going 35% over the limit and not have to worry about a lawyer getting the charge reduced.

    I speed. I've had my share of tickets. Last time I passed a state trooper in the opposite direction going well over the speed limit (Sunday morning, no houses in sight). I knew I was busted, pulled over to the side and waited for the officer to turn around and come get me. Got the ticket, paid it, went about the rest of the day.

    Dismounting my high horse now.
     
  21. tvrfreak

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    Unbelievably misguided.

    - stirampage said his father did not believe he was speeding. We operate on a presumption of innocence. So why the sermon about fessing up to "crimes"?

    - If one person can get away with speeding, all should. Otherwise, it's not fair for those who are cited. Selective application of the law sucks.

    - Not all laws make sense, or are created in a spirit of civic responsibilty. A lot of speed enforcement is done simply to raise revenue. The law is a living, breathing thing, and it changes constantly. So no, you don't have to agree with the laws, and no, they are not all created for good reasons.
     
  22. MikeZ_NJ

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    Maybe if we lived in a wonderland where all the cops, prosecutors, judges and legislators were honest and weren't running the traffic courts like the big businesses that they are, we peons wouldn't have to fight our tickets.
     
  23. tesseract

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    Point well taken - hence my use of the modifier "most" laws. Most (again) speeding laws were not meant to raise revenues - really. Hopefully, you don't/won't have a friend obliterated by an idiot "just messing around" going 65 in a 35.
     
  24. 134282

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    Now you're taking it to another involving the mention of possible casualties from speeding... We're not talking about that...

    The speed limit was enforced during an oil crisis many years ago; it was meant to be temporary until the government realized how much money they could make; hence, it stuck and we've been suckers to it ever since...

    Now, if i recall correctly, a few months ago, some old guy ran over his wife and killed her in their own driveway - he wasn't "speeding" and his "friend" was "obliterated"... but again, we're not talking about that...
     
  25. tvrfreak

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    99.9999999999% of all speeding is harmless. You do it. I do it. We do it. And everyone does it *most* of the time if not all. 2 speeding tickets in a year and your license is on the line. Your insurance is screwed. If you are on this board, you are more interested than the average person in driving and cars. Yet the moms yakking away on their cell phones while swerving in their SUvs are considered to be safer than the driving enthusiasts who probably are better drivers, pay more attention, and have cars with better capabilities. You are telling me this is fair? I don't think so.

    I sincerely hope you don't kill anyone while you are driving safely. Because that arbitrary safe speed you believe in so much...a vehicle traveling at well under the speed limit can kill someone just as easily. Focusing on speed, enforcing speed limits blindly, and setting up speed traps to turn ordinary citizens into criminals is a very myopic, misguided, and downright stupid way of trying to make the roads safer.

    Cheering the system in this case makes you look like a glassy-eyed stooge. Wake up.
     

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