Split discussion from the 2016 Canada GP thread.

I have never been pushed to crossing a ban line. There is an ignore feature that works great for people whose post are generally immature enough to not be worth reading. If some one can't let alone from replying to baseless posts via constant quotes, ignore them too! Suddenly the forum gets very readable. It's amazing.

 

The last word is unimportant if it's not true, what was said before will stand if it's right. Make your point, be clear, if you thought you were misunderstood, try to be more clear. If you can't get clear enough after three tries, you probably won't get anywhere.

 

Bas ban is warranted - He spends most his effort on deriding on Lewis with little or No cause

 

You're freaking Hilarious

 

Well said my friend

 

Exactly

 

I know this won't change your view on the subject Andrew, and i also know that you have to "report" to others who probably don't really understand what goes on in the f.1 section.
When the year started many said Toil had become a valuable contributor,that he was behaving himself..(i never felt for that)...he simply toned down because Rosberg was putting Elton to shame...as soon as His "friend" won 2 races he's back at it again.
We all know he's just here to piss Ferrari posters,no other reason. Who are the only 2 drivers he constantly bashes? That's right, Kimi and Seb..does he ever talk about Ferrari? No, that doesn't interest him. So why is he here? Because it amuses him to try and get people upset and get them banned. We all know this to be true.
He knows this is a tolerant forum,that won't exclude him for rooting for another team or driver, but he get's a kick by upsetting the regular members who "belong" here because this is after all "Ferrarichat". What "the powers in charge" should really think about is if it is worth having someone around who sole purpose is to bash Ferrari and it's drivers,and upset all the other posters in order to get a bad answer from them and get them banned...!?This makes no sense Andrew,he is a troll,you know it,everyone knows it, and you don't seem to care about it. Good users get banned,many stoped posting, the place got a bad rep and all of this because you guys refuse to ban a troll.

 

You are getting stuff wrong from my perspective. He is an absolutely fanatical fan of Hamilton, that's fine and no problem with. And also everyone sees that his fanaticism has him more often than not from utterly indefensible angles. Reason etc counts little.

I believe he thinks we all operate pretty similar. He believes on Fchat sits a bunch of Vettel and Kimi fanatics that also don't bother to apply reason. So when he is cornered while defending his utterances he lashes out at what he hopes hits home most.

It has always been the same. You say Hamilton didn't perform well today, he will tell you you are a hater and by the way, Vettel whined all day and Kimi always sucked...

I doubt in truth he has any issue with any driver. He just uses them where they come in handy.

 

Andrew you guys have a tough UNPAID job and we all know it. I am not here to try and second guess the tough job but I do want to show you some of the things others are talking about when it comes to toil. This was posted by TOIL in the Monaco race thread when he wasn't getting any reactions.

I have another I will quote. I posted ignore him because he simply thrives on starting a fight. Neither side is without guilt, but he really proves what his intentions are when he posts little attacks like these.

 

Here is another from the same Monaco thread. He likes to try the bounds and see who he can get to fall for it. I do agree we all need thicker skin, but honestly do these posts not prove he is trying to start a fight?

 

I challenge you to name me three informed debates toil took part in.

I don't think anyone had an issue with going off-topic. I would think going off-topic and off Ferrari is part of why there such depth to be found here.

But we are made to live with one that does so.

I disagree. The most vocal people that confront toil with his utterances (Bas, Aircon, Pter S, furoni...) all have no issue appreciating what a fine jockey Hamilton. I haven't seen any of them having the slightest issue with Hamilton fans.

The one thing that you have to admit is that we haven't seen a bunch so incredibly fanatic as the twins that turned into triplets. If any driver on the grid would have such fans - even a Ferrari driver - they would earn the same headwind on this board. Most likely from the same people.
As a matter of fact I would say you are wrong if you think their confrontation of toil has anything to do with Hamilton whatsoever. Hamilton is the linking piece between someone dishing out weird stuff and other confronting him. You could replace the name Hamilton in toils head with any name of your liking, you'd see the same here.

I have a job for you (you = mods). This is the least you can attempt provide us. Give us a second ignore function. Ignore #1 = current ignore. Ignore #2 = not even quotes are highlighted. This ignore has a better chance to allow to live in peace.

 

+1

 

Damn, you guys have way too much time on your hands.

I predict this will turn into a 20+ page thread on how to convince Andrew that Toil deserves a permanent ban because he doesn't agree with my Ferrari/Vettel views.

I hope you guys can get it to page 10 before Baku practice. I'll be back with my popcorn when I have some spare time. This stuff is hilarious!!!

 

You still did not understand that it is not about toils opinion but the way he represents this opinion. Nobody ever convinced him to share warm Ferrari feelings but he should not shoot against everything and anyone that is not Hamilton. I personally do not care a second whether he likes Vettel or not but everything you complain about people talking against Hamilton he does multiplied against everyone else but still you think you guys are the victim of a hate campain. He (and you btw) are the first to call others haters if they do not agree with you but still you complain about intolerance.

 

OK, so now you looked for the most funny ones and think we are all like that and do a campaign against him? I was banned for "trolling" without insulting anyone...
Did you also look into toils first post after the Bas banned one calling him mad?

In my opinion many of toils posts are trolling par excellence as they do not serve any other purpose than getting reactions. And I am sick we are permanently called haters as I personally think this is an insult as well but this is the only argument that is coming from those hardcore Hamilton fans.

 

I didn't report it before because, I have seen a lot of antagonizing by both sides and really just try to ignore Toil whenever possible. I brought it out now because Bas fell for the trap again, I wanted the trap maker exposed as well.

By the way, I will always admit you guys do a great job, including the few times Mseals has warned me for behavior. Tough job and you guys do it well every time.

 

oh...is that all?

 

This is absolutely true......but as has been pointed out many times, according to a couple of the blind Hamilton fans, if you don't say he's the best you're a hater. That's never sat well with me, and it's just not true. I wish I could drive like Hamilton and I wish I had his lifestyle (maybe with a bit less bling, but that's just me)...but that goes for most of the drivers, let's be honest.

 

You're trouble too! No one's saying that....and they never have.