Spot the fake daytona drop top

Column shifter.

Err, scratch that. I now see the stick shifter. It kind of blended in on my phone.


Mark

 

Rear window defroster.

 

Nice! Never noticed that before. Now that you've pointed it out of course it feels like a "duh" sort of thing that i should have noticed all along.

Is this the car currently for sale in Canada? Looks nice in the pics.

 

I was going with leather dash instead of the mousehair material.

 

sunvisors

There is something about the sunvisors and a real drop top

 

Really?

DK Engineering claim this car to be one of the original 122 factory "Daytona" Spyders, and it has four dash levers on the dashboard: Ferrari 365 GTS/4 "Daytona" Spyder for sale

And Classic & Sports Car magazine claim that this "Daytona" Spyder belonging to The Who legend Pete Townshend is one of 7 original factory RHD cars, and it has four dash levers on the dashboard: Ferrari Daytona Spider ? at the helm of one of the magnificent seven | Classic and Sports Car
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True spiders had a spool and a pull down sunvisor that was hidden inside the windshield frame trim. 246GTS and 365 Boxers also had the pull down visors.

 

I'm curious to know for certain. While clearly a defroster wouldn't be installed on a factory spider, I also can't see Ferrari creating a different dash layout for a limited production version. Just like the non functioning 'blank' switch in the US 430's.

 

I think it's not the levers, but the switches below. Conversions/coupes seem to have 4 switches to correspond with the 4 levers. Factory spyders have 4 levers but 3 switches.. or so it seems to me.

Examples below. Top pic (tan int.) is a coverted spyder. Bottom pic (blk int.) is a factory spyder that once belonged to Don Cornelious... Groovy baby!
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Given the variations among Ferrari production cars of the period both variants could be authentic production spec.

 

Factory spyders do indeed have pull down sunvisors. These pics are from my dream Daytona Spyder...14389.

Also, just to reaffirm the main point under discussion in this thread...this factory spyder car has 3 switches on the (heavily faded) dash.

Edit: That radio console was a custom job done by the former owner...record producer Lou Adler. Not stock.
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Is that known or just your opinion? Just asking. still learning myself.

 

To VIZSLA's point, I have seen a lot of variation on Daytona dashes. The little triangular covers over the dash levers, for example. Some have two, , some one, some none.

I personally don't know which is correct or if it changed by market or year....or whim.

 

First picture is of genuine RHD Daytona Spyder #15963 which has 4 switches under the 4 heating/ventilation levers. Second pic is of RHD Daytona Coupe #13271 which has 3 switches under the 4 heating/ventilation levers. So they vary.

In the Braden & Roush Daytona book there is a diagram of a dashboard with 3 switches identified as left and right hand ventilator blower switches and in the middle of these 2 switches is the electrically heated rear window switch. There is no mention of the hazard lights switch.
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I thought the factory spyders only had three levers as well, but it seems it is not the case.

When I first got my Daytona I asked my mechanic, a well respected judge and Ferrari guru, which release lever was for the fuel door and which was for the trunk? He responded it depends how Luigi was feeling that day.

So, I guess Luigi might have pulled a 3-lever or 4-lever dash off the shelf on any given spyder production day.

 

Back in the day the specs could vary from car to car. By the time the Daytona was being produced things were more standardized but with a limited run like the spyder variations were more likely

 

Re: Center dash switches, et. al. It might be worth to consider that many or most Daytonas have been subjected to one or more changes, modifications, restorations, upgrades, etc in their now +/- 45 year life and therefor relying on current, recent or even decades old photos to authenticate or reference originality is far from ideal approach.
Same likely applies to almost any and all vintage cars, regardless of make or model.

I've pointed this out before, but IMO & based on fair amount (15+ years) of personal experience with hands-on work with dozen+ examples & (long term, on-going research, most cars in books featuring Daytona photos appear to be less than stellar examples for authenticity reference.

 

Thanks. Is this the sort of "in between" time frame for standardization? I think if cars like the C/4 as less ideosyncratic but maybe I'm wrong.

 

Thank you for the clarification - The original mention of four "dash levers" instead of four "dash switches" completely threw Me!

(Saying that though, it seems that the 3 or 4 switch situation might not be as clear cut as was originally thought - There's something reassuringly "very old school Ferrari" about that! )

 

Daytona Spyder 14415 has 2 switches.

 

JD Classics pic.


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This is why I love ferrari...... we are all discussing possibly missing switches, and the likelihood that each car was built slightly differently and how quaint it is........ if this were any other car maker we’d be laughing and joking about how rubbish they are at Making cars, they can’t even get the switches right!

 

I was going to say no sticky buttons it can’t be real.