Spy shot of the '2016' FF

After spending so much producing the FF in the first place they are not so inclined to radically change things when it is already such a good product particularly as they are working on the V6 flat plane version of the Maserati engine to go into the Dino which will be shorter and lighter than the 488 which will have at least 550bhp in a package that competes with the baby Maclaren on price and performance.
Whether it ever sees production is another thing but chat in the cafes around town is optimistic
Two years ago in the back shed at Modena at the Maserati factory they were working on a stretched 4c with a view to putting the turbo V6 in the back and calling it possibly the Gransport but handling issues and balance stopped the work.....it later evolved into the potential for an Alfa 6C which has been muted by Fiat so much work has already been done and if it does appear I can see a bit of platform sharing which has again been inferred.

With face lift FF hitting the streets later in 2016 and probably running for at least 4 years that takes us to 2020 or 2021 and the 488 with upgrades lasting until at least then the only new model for sure will be the F12 replacement which isn't even being referred to yet as to when........so the Dino could be with us sooner

 

So you confirm that they are happy with the FF, the design, the SALES? lol.

 

Totally agree, well put.

 

Sales numbers in Europe, data from left lane. Assume it's accurate...

Ferrari

FF lanched 2011 (year 1)
612 launched 2004 (year 1)

FF. 612
Year 1 250. 250
Year 2 480. 337
Year 3 208. 273
Year 4 173. 141
Year 5. ---- 234
Year 6. ---- 103
Year 7. ---- 45

Would be interested if anyone has world figures...

 

Guys, I've just come back from the Ferrari showroom in Switzerland and they said that the new car will be presented in Geneva. The front will look like a F12 and the rear will have 4 tail lamps instead of current two individual light system. They would not confirm if it would be a hybrid or not but will definitely keep a V12

 

I still do not understand why Ferrari has gone from two tail lights to four - and ONLY for FF?

Wrong way if you ask me. But it is always up to each and everyone if one likes a car or not.

 

Ferrari in house styling is not Pinanfarina. It matters.

 

No hybrid....fact

 

V8TT?

 

Presumably first with the second generation, the FF II in 2019? But then maybe only with V8 and gullwing doors...
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That's interesting ... did you create it Daniel?

Would be the all electric version perhaps. lol

 

No no, the source is a well know German magazine called AutoBild Sports Cars. In the latest issue (number 12, December 15) is a Ferrari special over 20 pages including the roadmap till 2020. Very interesting! It seems that the FF will change its profile clearly...

 

Con you scan road map please?

 

Here we go...
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Boy they have come up with some truly ugly looking designs, I hope all on their own!

 

Doubt they will go gull wing on the next gen FF. With the current FF they have made it more usable. Gull wing is a nice design, but not as an everyday car.

 

I said that already on the 1st December 2015 in post #180.
Geneva March 2016 is clear since months. With 8 cyl engine plus another version with 12 cyls (at a much higher price). No hybrid.
Previews are this December in Maranello.

Marcel Massini

 

No t I'm afraid

 

Fore sure a V8TT If they are to do a large gullwing like that because there's no room left for a V-12

 

I am 99% certain (you can never be 100% with Ferrari) that the FF will have a V8 TT, even if in addition to the V12.

Thanks for sharing the roadmap. I do not believe in the Dino, and their designs are absolutely hideous. Looks more like something belonging to a remake of Blade Runner than anything else..

 

Apart from obvious clues (wheels, grills etc) it's hard to see much Ferrari DNA in those designs, intriguing as they are. However I'm looking forward to all of the new models, especially the FF.

 

Score: 0/4

Can't believe any of them are anywhere close. No Ferrari DNA in any of that.

 

They look like the bastard children of Mercedes and Maclaren to me after a night on The falling down water.

 

2018 488 Facelift? I dont Think so