Standing mile record smashed again. 266.9 mph in 18 mph headwind!

Gentelmen, the record has been smashed, and beaten like the little girl it was...

266 mph !!!!!! WOW

 

So how does this compare with cars that were doing 300+ mph in a quarter mile?

Taz
Terry Phillips

 

Those cars can't run on the street, don't have air conditioning, a functional interior... aren't based on street cars, aren't street cars.... need I say more?

 

I would say it doesn't compare at all. Especially if, GOD forbid you have to turn or for that matter brake at all.

 

Apples and oranges. Those cars do 300+ mph in a QUARTER mile, not a mile. A race would be no contest....

But as said, this is a car you can drive on the street. What kinda car was it? A Ford GT?

 

Top Fuelers do 0-100 in around .9 seconds but they burn something like 15 gals of fuel per run. Not even 1/4 mile anymore, only 1000 ft.

 

One of Craig Breedlove's cars would wipe the floor with a Top Fueler. Apples and Oranges.

 

Ok, What car did this? The OP is toying with ya!

 

Hefner Twin Turbo Ford GT driven by Ray Hoffman

 

And they believe that 275 mph is entirely possible.

 

Not in 0-100....if your talking about his jet car it takes alot longer to get movin' then a Top Fueler.

 

not in a 1000' run either. top fuel is the fastest projectile on the planet!

 

What kind of testing do they do on the tires & rims over 250MPH? IIRC the Veyron is limited due to tire performance limitations.

 

They (the GT and Gallardo TT) only touch 250 or 260 mph for a couple of seconds...
Veyrons tyres are designed to sustain that speed for 15minutes of so

 

Major tire manufacturers have been making tires that can sustain 250 mph for many years now. Places like the Mulsanne straight, and the Bonneville Salt Flats have seen cars topping the speeds seen on the standing mile air strips today.

The Bugatti's Michelin tires are the first run-flat tire to do so, but the Michelin XGT Plus were certified for 250 mph with the Vector W8 back in 1990. Although those tires were available for other cars like the Countach, and Testerossa... neither were validated for 250 mph like the Vector W8 was in testing.

 

If you guys want more info on the event, it was set up by a guy I know. His name is Seth, and he runs the exotics interest group Exotics Rally. Hang around the forums, and plenty of vids/pics will probably be up soon!

http://exoticsrally.com/forum/

(Mods tell me if you want me to remove the link)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksxEwo7ySm4

this isn't the run, but is this the car?

 

That looks like it may be the run, and definitely is the car

 

And aerodynamic drag...?

 

Each car is capable of more than 253 mph, however, they are electronically limited. That said, I think I recall that for every extra 1 mph, they need another 50 hp... something like that.

 

Base on the history of this event and what it takes to run these speeds...I don't think this is true. Too much speed-gain too fast, is the timing verified somehow?

 

http://www.fordgtforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18768

Read, and think about it yourself...

 

You mean posts like this one?:

"It was a pleasure seeing many of you, and meeting many of you for the 1st time. The pleasure was all mine, believe me.

With all due respect to everyone who attended, especially for those who traveled from out of state, hats off to all your incredible efforts.

Now for the bad news.....

The event yesterday was run as poor as an event could have been run. All the times in the first half of the day were off by close to 10 MPH. All the top 3 tuners, UR, Heffner, and PPR agreed. UR and Heffner had 2-3 GPSs in their cars, and all them showed a faster time than what they gave. After lunch, they started moving all the sensors again to compensate for the slow times, but in reality, they must have over compensated for the slower times from earlier on.

One of our friends who runs ALL the time, Stormer, who is a perfect example, runs high 180s all day long. He ran a low 190 with a tail wind at Top Gun Run. Yesterday, he was running 186 all day, and at the very end of the day when they gave him his printout, there were 2 runs that had an identical quatermile time, identical quartermile mph, identical Mile time (29.3 seconds on both runs), but the MPH was a 20 MPH difference. They gave him a 203 MPH run!!!! All for a pulley and tune? Does that sound correct to you?

Brooks from DragTimes was talking to the owner of the Cooper SC Z06. He runs 184 all day long. When they gave him his printed sheet, it said 195. Even he laughed at it and said there's no way that his car is that fast.

I heard from UG that after they showed a 246 MPH on the GPS systems in the car that ran 250 MPH in Texas, they told him yesterday that he ran a 232!! After that, Kevin pulled Seth away and made a major complaint to him. Seth told him that he could correct his run and Kevin asked how? Seth said by just inputting the number. After that conversation, Kevin packed up and he was done.

When Ray had one of his fastest runs, these guys weren't even able to give him his time due to a system malfunction. I believe that was really one of his fastest runs. But the timing guy did say, and I heard it with my own ears, that Ray's car was running 168 MPH at the quartermile. Now does that seem possible to you? Ray's car is fast, but 168 MPH? Not even the fastest street cars with slicks launching and pulling the front tires can run 168.

There were too many discrepancies with the timing equipment yesterday, that NO ONE really knows what is right and what isn't. All I know is that NONE of this can be relied as an official time. It's ashamed that E. Rally really dropped the ball. But what did you really expect? Especially coming from their previous event when they had to share 1 VBox amongst all the drivers.

After being charged $450 per car, and $50 PP, you would expect that they would have spent a little money to get the right timing equipment and run a proper event. Then again this was a club event.

There wasn't even anyone at the end of the track to give clearance. When Johnny blew a water hose towards the end of the track, no even bothered to come down to inspect it to see whether or not it was safe to run again. If you wanted the timing slip from the machine, you were given a computer generated printout. Not what you get with the Tag system. Anyone running Texas or Top Gun Run can get an actual slip from that system.

In any event, the cars were very fast, and no one got hurt.

The best part of the whole event? Seeing Ray take off on the runway in his jet. That was priceless!!"





This post makes it sound like ******bags are in abundance at these events:


"In the course of running events and a website, sometimes you have to make executive decisions on what kind of crowd is appropriate for your members. The pro wrestling analogy is apropos given what I saw yesterday. Never in my life, under any circumstance, and certainly not at what is supposed to be a good time, have I seen what I saw yesterday.

When it looked like PPR was going to have the fastest time of the day, what looked like 30 people rolled into Ray's rig area shoving cameras into Ray's face to watch johnny discuss whatever he had to discuss with Ray. That's a bit paparrazi/TMZ for my tastes in the first place, but I digress. I get it, that's the shtick for some people. Internet videos with a bit of trash talking and so on. What bothered me was the fact that the centerpiece of the circus was the "security guard" they brought with them brandishing two pistols and an assault rifle with his finger on the trigger. And yes, it was brandishing. When your weapon is tucked into your shirt and you're raising your shirt to show it off, that's brandishing. Especially when you're doing it to vaguely look intimidating. I mean, besides the whole assault rifle thing. At a runway. For a car event.

We're all grown men here, so let's not try attempt to say that was anything but part of the show for the Internet. We carry handguns carefully concealed in the ghetto. We don't wander around with AR-15s with ACOG scopes out. That was purely for show. We're out there having a good time, and Ray's 18 month old son is standing next to him while a very poorly trained security guard (brandishing weapons makes you poorly trained. If you're really there for a security reason, just do your job discreetly) has an assault rifle hanging around his next with his finger on the trigger aimed at what we'll call toddler height. I don't even know what to say about that. For all I know the guy could pick off gnats at 1000 yards, but you get judged by your conduct.

When Ray asks him to please leave he says "There's nothing in the chamber." Well then why is it out? It was beyond reckless, it was stupid, it was not cool, it was not funny, and I can tell you after Ray laid down the fastest time of the day, we weren't rushing back to the cars to grab a bunch of .45's and run up putting cameras in people's face to make an internet video. Back to the WWE bit, those fans are who gets impressed by that kind of stuff. Me? Color me extraordinarily unimpressed. I guarantee nobody at SVT or FRPP was impressed when word of that got back.

I literally can't believe that whole scenario, but it's one of those things where you have to ask yourself, as a rational adult, if these are people you want around the crowd you're trying to entertain. I can't speak for the yahoos that ran yesterday's event, but if a guy shows up with an assault rifle and two visible handguns, I don't care why he's there, you're not getting on the property. This is not Basra or Kandahar. It's a runway in Miami with a bunch of wealthy guys running their cars.

Johnny seems like a nice enough guy. The car runs great, it's strong, and it's a super fast Ford GT. But whole thing was b.s. Ray is a diplomat. I am not. I have no tolerance for people that can't accurately assess that a place with small children and wives and guys trying to have a good time isn't an appropriate place to be having a conversation about whether or not you've got 7.62 loaded in the chamber. Life is too short for stupid stuff like that, and you pull that stunt with the wrong guy someday, and life could end up being REALLY too short for someone, and REALLY long for the guy that winds up in a cell for the next 25. Wrong venue, wrong conduct, wrong crowd."




I am sure some of the runners are professional and know what they are doing. Unfortunately there is a seedy element that is going to ruin these mile runs.
Someone posted a video here on FChat a few days ago of a guy doing over 250 in his Lamborghini. The in-car video was proof enough to me that the guy in no-way has the driving skills to be running this fast of a car in an event like this. No way.
Some of these events, like this Florida one, are a disaster waiting to happen. Unskilled drivers driving lethal machines, macho a***** with too much money, too much horsepower (and guns??) acting like morons, poorly managed crowds...it's just a matter of time.
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Exactly.

The guys I know were quite surprised by how the event was run.

That is why with the events I have a hand in organizing, I purposely try to keep that kind of crowed out of what we do... because eventually somebody is going to crash, or get hurt as a result of stupidity.

That said, if Jason and Ray have the data to show the car ran @ speed, then it did. Jason has shown time and time again to be above the fray that you speak of... some ~others~ who shall remain nameless in this post may not. This doesn't mean that only being inclusive of one group by any means. I just know that Jason Heffner's character is impeccable.

I just watched the UGR 250 mph lambo video... and I couldn't agree more.

 

^^^^ I think he peed his pants!