Can you start/depart in electric mode, or does the motor always have to fire to warm up?
Good deal, and why does it have to plugged in if the engine regenerates/charges the battery while driving?
not to poach the tread but what type of plug in do i need to charge it? getting gts soon and need to know what to charger to put in my garage
One would think you shouldn’t need to plug it in but the battery for the hybrid seems to be the only one and it’s needed to run all the computers/ systems. The owners manual designates how often it needs to be plugged in. I forget what it says but I plug it in after every drive, because sometimes life gets ahead of me and I forget to come back and plug it in. The plug appears to be the ev standard style, but Im not sure about the different standards (theres the Tesla one and the other EV plug, I think they call it CSS, and I think the 296 uses this style. Personally, I think all this EV focus is a mistake. Ferrari should be about the engine first and foremost.
You need a regular plug , no special charger. When I asked the dealer he said leave it plugged in as the charger kicks in and out as needed. If I return from a drive with 50% charge left it takes a little under 2 hrs to charge fully then the lights on the charger go from two blue flashing to one. I hope this helps
I use my tesla cable to charge my 296. Always arrive home on zero electric as I like to be in ev in traffic and charging to full is ~6.7kwh and takes 2 hours. I start and drive it in ev, then when close to city limits start the engine.
Great use cases. Apologies for the confusion, I thought you meant the plug on the car itself. The included Ferrari tender/charger uses a standard wall outlet plug, you dont need anything special. However, they say you have to plug it directly into the wall, no extension cords, etc.
This depends on many things, like the temperature ... mine does not fire up in E-mode anymore after the 20.000 kms service ... there's always trouble after the car had been serviced.
Dealers recommend always having the car on charge. This is because most owners don't use them enough and the car's battery loses a significant amount of charge per day. If it hits zero you may well end up having to get the car towed off to a dealer. Whilst you can drive in electric straight away the car really likes to have a warm engine and gearbox to operate properly. I always fire the engine up and let it warm. You never know when you'll need that extra power.
So the engine can’t operate independently in such a case? What a strange technology. Seems like their next gen hybrids should be fully…hybrid.
This "feature" does seem quite a common one with performance hybrids. More puzzling for me is what on earth the car is doing to drain the main battery in a week or two.I tested mine awhile back (garage temps were low.. maybe 1-10 deg C) I lost 6% battery per day.
With my Mac the car would talk back and forth with the key, so i started keeping the both keys in a faraday box which helped significantly
I agree there should be an override feature for when the hybrid battery is dead. I had fatal hybrid battery error and had to push the car out of the garage in order to load it on the truck...very frustrating but this is what happens if the hybrid battery fails. Car is still at the dealership while they try to figure out why the hybrid fully discharged despite being on the charger.
It doesn't have to be plugged in - and in fact when I bring it back I usually only drive the last 1-2 mi on EV mode to keep it stealthy in town so I tend to have about a 90% charge when I park it. The 296 then indicates that it can go 90+ days without needing to be plugged in. I have no problem leaving it for weeks or more without being on the charger. Like all EVs, the key is to not leaving it <25% charge, in extreme cold or with the lights on or keys in it. That avoids extra parasitic drain that will more quickly discharge the PHEV battery.
I have no idea where your car or app is telling you it can go 90+ days. My app just shows a percentage remaining and it loses 6% per day consistently. I haven't let it drop below maybe 20% and perhaps the car tries to lower the drain at some point but I haven't seen any sign of that and several dealers and techs have told me about owners having their cars transported in to get them up and running after pretty short stints of being garaged.
Here is my experience after 18 months owning first a GTB and now a GTS. The GTB just worked, plugged it in when I returned to my garage and never had a problem. If I was away I drove the last few miles in Quali mode and the Hybrid would drop 3% (summer) or 5-6% (winter) per day if I did not drive it and it was not plugged in. Eventually I just got into the habit of driving the last few miles in Quali mode wherever I was. Unless the hybrid was low (perhaps < 20%) it would start in Electric only mode if I wanted, if it was low it said no electric start available and I would start it in Hybrid or ICE only. GTS arrived, within 6 weeks the hybrid was dead even though I followed my normal procedures. Eventually worked out I had a power cut in the garage and after a lot of detective work it appeared the charger had feed the hybrid's charge back into the garage and the 12v battery had been hammered. Because of the power cut we left it at but the car had to go back to the dealer for the "dead" hybrid to be resolved which should have told me something** I was then on a road trip and had the 12v system fail. Luckily I had a NOCO to help charge the 12v and all was ok. **Eventually traced both the GTS electrical problems to the charger being faulty, got a new charger and no problems since. My lessons: – plug it in where possible – use quali mode to charge the hybrid to your final destination if possible – unplug the charged if you have a power cut – use the app to check the hybrid charge level – do not use an extender with the Ferrari supplied charger Enjoy the car
Ive also had it suggested to me that it’s a good practice to unplug the tender every few weeks as this seems to reset its internal computer. First unplug from the car, then unplug the tender from the electric main. Im not so sure how long to wait, I usually leave it for an hour or so. This has worked for me.
When exiting the car, the “My Drive” screen shows a “battery life” with a number of days. Maybe this information is wildly overstated but I do know I’ve left the car for many days and returned to find a similar charge. The car is kept in a garage that doesn’t go below 55 degrees F, the keys are in another room. I’ll keep an eye on the app to see how much it drops per day. Obviously I too do not wish to have a dead battery require me to flatbed it to the dealer, but I do expect the car to work as advertised. Image Unavailable, Please Login
So it’s basically just a plug-in toy. Ferrari needs to get on their R&D game and make their next batch of hybrids innately hybrid.
Cool deal. My only concern is complexity. This would be for a rental portfolio, and I wouldn’t want customers dealing with nightly charging woes. Might be best to find a slightly used F8 instead.