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still smells like gas/exhaust after a drive.........

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  1. qedqeq

    qedqeq Formula Junior

    Apr 15, 2015
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    Hi all,

    I would a like few ideas as to why I still smell of gas/exhaust after a drive. I mean like my clothes are smelly as so am I, and the inside of the car.

    It is not not a straight pure gas smell, more like a burned exhaust smell.

    It doesn't smell when it is just sitting in the garage

    I have:

    changed the fuel lines,
    changed fuel vent lines,
    removed the air injection system and plugged holes,
    removed the rear bank sniffer tubes and plugged holes (Cannot reach front bank),
    removed the evap system,
    changed air warmup lines,
    changed the blow-by lines,
    changed spark plugs,
    fixed a broken nipple from the passenger tank,
    fixed all the exhaust leaks with fresh donuts gaskets and new bolting throughout

    I used frsh new 30R7 and 30R9 on every single inch replaced.

    This car has smelled like this since I bought it last summer, that is why I did all this, because I am trying to solve this.

    This is a 1987 328GTB with factory exhaust mainfolds and intermediate pipe, but it has a Tubi passthrough Cat (pretty much a straight pipe), and a Tubi Muffler assembly

    I think that maybe I am running too rich????????

    Running out of ideas as to why my Beautiful Ferrari enjoys giving me eye tearing headaches after I drive it for a while.
     
  2. MNExotics

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    Check your ignition first. Yank the plugs and look for carbon fouling. This will tell you where your issue may be. If your injectors are in poor condition the fuel will not atomize properly and not burn completely. From there it is compression tests.
     
  3. tinterow

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    It's exhaust...plain and simple...unburned fuel...btw, all that stuff you removed is what's supposed to help burn the fuel efficiently...Emissions!
     
  4. 308 milano

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    #4 308 milano, Aug 26, 2016
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    You mean like removing your air pump and slapping a spinning cap on the pulley?



    Follow MNExotics recommendations, he's putting you on the right path.
     
  5. qedqeq

    qedqeq Formula Junior

    Apr 15, 2015
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    Thanks Guys,

    I removed everything because nothing was functioning.

    Definitely going to start with my injectors, I purchased those PTFE bushings from the German dude selling them, because a couple of mine look like they are leaking from then top and rusting, and also removing the little distributor fuel lines.

    Looking at the spark plugs right now.

    Thanks guys.
     
  6. Jdubbya

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    Bring it to my house and run it in the garage. I miss that smell almost as much as I miss the car it came from.
     
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  7. qedqeq

    qedqeq Formula Junior

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    HAHAHAHAHAHA
     
  8. tinterow

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    Kim...spinning caps is yesterdays news...I finally got it to come loose at 120mph :)
     
  9. 4right

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    Perfectly normal for a 308, the best part is that if you park the car in the garage, the whole house smells that same way! My wife absolutely loves it when the house smells like exhaust.
     
  10. andyww

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    Driving with the roof off does seem to cause the exhaust to recirculate into the car at some speeds.
     
  11. Steve King

    Steve King F1 Rookie

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    Yeah used to get that complaint all the time. Carb vents would smell up the garage . I even made a bung to plug into the air intake after I parked it but no good. Just one of the reasons I finally sold the car.
     
  12. 308 milano

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    If I have the roof off then yes, I will get some exhaust fumes into the cabin. All the jeeps I have ever owned, same thing with the roof off. Seems air turbulence carries the exhaust fumes back around but this shouldn't be happening with an FI car if you've got the roof panel on. Neither one of my cars has this issue. BUT, if you own a Carb, Best advice I can think of is to negotiate a new washer/dryer into the deal at time of purchase! Haha :)
     
  13. Martin308GTB

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    Each attempt to get rid of that smell is vain endeavour.
    I love it but if you don't and are not willing to get used to it you'll have a problem.
    It's part of the 308/328 experience.

    Best Regards
    Martin
     
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  14. 308 milano

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    Wow.. hope that didn't get launched up and around like a ball bearing in a pinball machine and put dents in your deck lid. Was a thread a few years ago where someone ran over a penny that got kicked up, settled in between the Cam belt/pulley and took out the valve train. IIRC, it was just after leaving a toll booth? Different topic but I make sure all my cars have back Cam belt Covers. Piece of mind insurance.


    Actually, that's not correct. Thinking back on it, it didn't take out the valves but took an exact stamping of the size of a penny out of his cam belt? More coffee needed this morning. Long-winded way of saying, hoping your car wasn't damaged.
     
  15. tinterow

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    No damage, Kim...Thanks! P.S. I'm truly sorry for our earlier comments to eachother :)
     
  16. 308 milano

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    Yeah, same here Chaya.. Just came back from working 112 hours in eight days. Was in an especially grumpy mood that week. Even my wife told me I better lighten up at home or she will show me exactly what a grumpy mood is. LOL
     
  17. ClydeM

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    Better than burnt meatloaf, eh? :)
     
  18. Albert-LP

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    Just the carbed cars do a slight smell of gasoline when parked in a box. 208 308 328 fuel injected don't do any smell of gasoline: If they do, there is something to fix.

    Ciao
     
  19. nerofer

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    I would agree with Alberto here, although our cars are "Euros" and do not have the same fuel system as "US variant"; but to me, for an Euro car, fuel smell means something wrong. Both my GTB and my GTS do not have it.
    Rgds
     
  20. 4right

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    I have to agree with you on that one!
     
  21. Martin308GTB

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    As far as I understood, the OP didn't talk about raw fuel smell but about that characteristic exhaust smell, which is a mixture of not completely burnt fuel and burnt oil.
    I cannot imagine to eliminate this completely, not even on an injected car.
    BTW, what is the average oil consumption of the 3.2 engines? Or better said, how much is the oil consumption on these engines, which is considered normal or acceptable?


    Best
    Martin
     
  22. vaccarella

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    Exactly this. I've just switched from FI to carburettor and unburnt fuel lingers for an hour or so in the garage. The i never did this.
     
  23. Albert-LP

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    Oil consumption depends from the usage, of course: It's the same of a modern car, if the engine is on the factory play and wear range
     
  24. Martin308GTB

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    Ahhh, I understood, if you don't use the car, it of course doesn't consume any oil :)
    Without kidding; My question was the amount of oil the 3.2 engines are allowed to consume until one has to think about an engine rebuild.

    Best
    Martin
     
  25. miketuason

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    Martin, I think if you consume 1 Ltr. of oil every 100 km, that might be a sign that engine is tiered.
     

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