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STOP THE PRESS!!!!! - - - - NEW Tyres from Pirelli - CINTURATO 205/70VR14 CN36

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  1. Longstone Tyres

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    #1 Longstone Tyres, Aug 18, 2016
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    Hi Team

    This news is hot off the press i am expecting delivery tomorrow. they should be only £ 199 GBP

    I should be receiving them tomorrow so if you want to be the first email [email protected] or ring 00 44 1302 711123.

    this is a picture of another CN36 in a different size. they are so new i haven't seen them yet and i haven't even got them on the web site yet
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  2. Longstone Tyres

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  3. Dino246gts

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    The tire you show says "R" not "VR". Does that make a difference?
     
  4. 4CamGT

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    Fantastic!!! The CN36 and the XWX are two of the best looking tires! I just saw my friend's Carrera RS collection with the new 215/60-15 CN36 rears.

    Freeman
     
  5. dinogts

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    If there's no "V," it isn't a VR, and is NOT correct for a 246 Dino. Let's see if Longstone Tyres can sort this out.
     
  6. swift53

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    I had CN36 on my Alfa GTVin the good old days when you went 'flat out'.

    My car, being 'slightly breathed over' would see 220kph in Germany for miles and nothing happened, so I would not be overly concerned, as those speeds are seldom seen nowadays.

    The Alfa came with Firestone Cavallino as OEM, and those were good for 190+ as that's as fast as it would go. Rating? Who knows, or who cared...

    When I changed the wheels to magnesium and the CN36's, it would still handle and slide as it was intended to, more controlled, yet it would slide and drift.
    Now, with modern compounds, I am not certain about that anymore.

    I once asked someone on this site how their new XWX's handled, and he replied that he did not know. Guess not a very spirited driver, and the tires were just a "concours" requirement.

    Personally, if I want boring, I think a Prius would do better, with some 145/90s' or whatever they put on them.

    Buy the CN36,s they look very period and cool.

    I hope this plug is worth for a decent discount :)

    Regards, Alberto
     
  7. GermanDino

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    I do agree... not allowed in Germany on a Dino....
     
  8. capcgn

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    It is clearly to see, it has a W Rating, also more than 240 km/h, like the XWX. No problem in Germany
     
  9. 500tr

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    Correct...
     
  10. GermanDino

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    #10 GermanDino, Aug 21, 2016
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    if the tire has a "W" rating, it`s more than fine....
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  11. dinogts

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    I don't see a W where one would normally be. Generally, before 1991 it would often be within the size marking - such as 205/70VR14, but after 1991 it would appear separately after, but close to, the size marking - such as 225/50R16 91W, or something similar.

    Yes, I see the W that is marked near the rim, but that is not the style or location where you would normally see a speed marking. Maybe Dougal has more info by now?
     
  12. Longstone Tyres

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    #12 Longstone Tyres, Aug 23, 2016
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    Aha! fear not. we have it all under control.

    the tyre size is 205/70R14 89W.

    meaning:- 205mm wide at the widest point; 70% of 205mm is the height of the side wall, R means it is radial and 14" is the diameter of the rim. this is the size of the tyres description and then now for modern times we need a load rating which is 89 and the speed rating is W. W speed ratings hadn't been invented in 1968 but it means 170 mph. so it is perfect.

    Here iss a picture i have taken to demonstrate. (please don't take offence of the pointer i made specially, there is non intended, it just a bit of fooling around. you can get things right and have a laugh while you are at it)
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  13. 4redno

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  14. Longstone Tyres

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    Any reason why one should go with these instead of XWXs (other than price?).

    The previous owner of my Dino should find this amusing - I was told that, as Director of Motorsport for Pirelli, he was hacked off at having to buy Michelin tyres for his car!!!
     
  16. GermanDino

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    if you ask me... Michelin XWX`s are the best authentic choice and drives well too....
     
  17. 500tr

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    Ferrari delivered a lot of cars with Pirelli Cinturato CN36 in the sixties and seventies including Dino. So why not try an alternative to the expensive XWX? I will...
     
  18. Longstone Tyres

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    I don't suppose anyone has a picture of a Dino fitted with Cinturato CN36 do they?

    Or any other Ferrari for that matter.

    Also a build sheet listing CN36 would pretty much make my day
     
  19. GermanDino

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    that would be very interesting.... :)
     
  20. dinogts

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    When? Where? What models?
     
  21. 500tr

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    The Cinturato was delivered with several 12 cylinder models as 250 GTE, 330 GT 2+2.
    Not with Dino 246, I have to correct that. But this tyre was very common on cars of the seventees as BMW 3.0, Mercedes SL, Porsche and several Dino owners went to it when they had to change.
     
  22. Longstone Tyres

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    Hi 500tr I'm confused. was it onthe the Ferrari 246 Dino?

    I have been given a pdf of the Fiat Dino sales brochure and you can see them in the on the car which is great, but i must admit it would be great if they were Ferrari OE.

    Pirelli have also made me a few new sizes in the Cinturato CN12 tread pattern

    205/70WR15 PIRELLI CINTURATO ™ CN12 | Longstone Tyres which is not a Ferrari size but loads of people fit them to cars that should fit the 185VR15 cars like 250 GT Lusso, and the 250 GTE, definitely did not fit 205/70VR15 tyres when they were built because they had not been invented yet, but as a 185 tyre has a recommended rim of 4.5" - 6" rim and Ferrari being Ferrari a lot of these cars had a 6.5" rim, so people assume a wider tyre was fitted, but it wasn't.

    215/70VR15 PIRELLI CINTURATO ™ CN12 | Longstone Tyres this is a good one for Ferrari too. between '64 and the 70's most cars on 15" wheels fitted the all new biggest high speed rated radial the 205VR15 Cinturato CN72 HS which we still have today. but when 70 profile tyres came out in 1968 cars started to move on to low profile tyres, so lots of cars that fitted 205VR15 moved on to 215/70VR15, Ferrari did iit and so did Maserati & Lamborghini

    255/60WR15 PIRELLI CINTURATO ™ CN12 | Longstone Tyres this one is a good one. this tyre was original on a Lamborghini Muira SV on the rear and on the Aston Martin V8 Vantage for about 2 years. It was a bit of a punt getting these made. i hoped to increase sales by selling it to De Thomaso Mangusta. maybe i should think about just getting tyres sold that are going to sell in large quantities.
     
  23. dinogts

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    Weren't Pirelli bought by a Chinese tire manufacturer recently?

    What is the country of origin on these new CINTURATOs?
     
  24. Longstone Tyres

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    Er Turkey of course.

    However, there are other classic tyre companies that just slap theirs brand name on a tyre that they just have manufactured by who ever will do it cheapest.

    this is different. the Turkey facctory is a Pirelli factory. the CN36 Pirelli Cinturato are made in a Pirelli factory with their own in house quality control. they are made in the same factory that Pirelli make their F1 tyres.
     
  25. JCR

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    Thought this was interesting. Perhaps one of our German members can give us more details from the article.

    Pirelli a clear winner in classic tyre test : Tyrepress
     

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