Stopped in gear. Does it wear the clutch on F1 cars?

It wears the clutch

 

There are many posts re this. Ferrari states that it doesn't prematurely wear the clutch by leaving it in first gear with the brake pressed. My clutch has only 20% wear after 15,000 miles, so it must not hurt to keep it in gear with your foot on the brake. The worst thing for your clutch is reverse (esp. reverse uphill!).


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As Brad says there are many posts/threads by folk with more credibility than someone with neither name nor location saying the reverse and able to give a viable explanation - at a guess its something that Tazandjan and/or Rifledriver would have had something to do with posting possibly in the 575 section as well as here

Try this http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/360-430/444313-neutral-vs-1st-gear-red-light.html

 

on perfectly level ground, with all brakes off, add a little fuel, does your car roll at all? If yes, then the clutch will wear slightly when sitting in 1st gear a light.

If it does NOT roll at ALL, it probably wont, when sitting in 1st.

I like my clutch clearance set down real low, it speeds the shifts between gears, and it cause some roll in 1st and at idle,

it will be depend on how your F1 clutch clearance was set, try the test I describe above,

the car is a lot more fun to drive with it set close as possible, but you have to go to N at lights if you do this method. IMHO

 

Even the manual states to put the car in neutral for longer waits, in my mind that means the robot press the clutch all the way down when he car is stopped, just like you do in a normal manual car, as long as you drive the car as a normal manual car you are fine, and it is never a good idea to wait in a stop pressing the clutch instead of putting it in neutral.
I think the only difference between an F1 and a true manual car is that you don't need to release the throttle when shifting at full throttle, all the rest is the same.



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I think that you are missing the point about putting the car in neutral when stopped. I always put my 16M in neutral when stopped, not because the clutch itself wears (it does not), but because this takes all of the pressure off the clutch release bearing. When the car sits in first, the clutch release bearing is working its little heart out keeping the clutch pressure plate away from the clutch surface. When the transmission is in neutral, the release bearing does nothing. This technique will extend the life of the (relatively inexpensive) release bearing. This bearing costs just as much in labor charges to replace as a full clutch job. I have had many manual cars over the last 50 years, including a 2003 BMW M3 SMG with the same system as my Ferrari, and I have never have had to replace the throwout bearing prematurely. My M3 has 105,000 miles on the original clutch that is still working fine. Put the car in neutral in traffic whenever you can.

 

But that isn't how it works. Both cars have a constant contact release bearing. In other words, it is spinning no matter what. It is not like the manual.

 

Old School cars used a piece of carbon as a release bearing. It was important to minimize waiting time at stoplights with your foot on the pedal because they were literally wearing away. The ball bearings used in current-production cars don't usually wear significantly. As mentioned, it is under a preload and spinning any time the engine is turning.

 

Applying pressure to the consistent pressure to the brake pedal is the same as neutral in these cars.

 

No it doesn't.

OP - I would refer to the linked thread.

I go to neutral at lights and such...I just drive it the same as a manual.