Story of 250 GT Cabriolet s/n 0799

Yep, that'll get you sued. Attorneys for larger publishers tend to review those kinds of ads before publishing. Smaller ones run them at their peril.

I presume the theory that the new owner was dragged into an old civil case has been proven correct?

 

The papers filed thus far do not address the outcome of the underlying theft allegations. Given Bill's report that the car has been returned to the CT owner, they presumably have been resolved. It surprises me, though, that the defamation action was filed apparently well in advance of that resolution.

The motion to dismiss states that the validity of the ad was verified before it was printed, by a highly-regarded Ferrari expert who is occasionally a very welcome contributor to this forum.

 

I think it's possible that a wealthy car owner might not know a car he owned that is stored far away had been stolen from him. I base this on the experience of knowing a world class wealthy car owner --a man who lives in Monaco and who has the habit of buying cars around the world and leaving them in storage in the country he buys them in. For instance in Calif. he left a Maserati Ghibli spyder and 2-3 smashed Ferrari 400s in a lockup and that was several years ago and as far as I know, he hasn't been back since. To the true jet setters these cars represent such a small amount of their net worth, that they are not worth getting worked up about. This seems incomprehensible to me, who is not a jet setter, but on a smaller scale I too have left things behind and not worried about them (once I rented an apt., put clothes in the closet and never went back..) I don't know if the Swiss owner was in that financial strata, but based on the jet setter I knew, it's par for the course

 

read the SCM there were two Swiss owners.

 

Yes it's quite an interesting story. Apparently there's some type of joint ownership in Switzerland whereby the owners have different powers and rights, if I understood it correctly.

Jack.

 

That was my understanding as well.

Barney's pissed, and sueing

Personally, I don't think any less of him; he's got all my favorite cars!

 

I personally think suing over this is bad karma, but I suppose he is within his right to try. I for one did not think any less of him for allegedly "possessing stolen property" - rather, I pitied him because I thought he'd been bamboozled by a crook.

The evidence was clearly real enough make the police believe that the car should be impounded, so why should a magazine not arrive at the same conclusion?

With all that said, if he has in fact been proven the vehicle's rightful owner, then I'm pleased that car has been returned to him.

 

I agree with all of that, and I would hate to see Barnes or Roush damaged by this unfortunate situation.

Jack.

 

Incorrect. Whomever you mean with "nawarmind".
It was me who took this photograph on the 19th January 2001 at MOROSO raceway in Florida, not at Greenwich and not in 2005.
The photo is COPYRIGHT MARCEL MASSINI.

 

(C) indicated was..... "nawamind".
the correct attitude will be to put the copyright on your pics if so important.

Best

 

How about this.

"Oops, sorry Marcel, honest mistake, didn't mean to post your photo."

In this instance Marcel is exerting his copyright, nothing more or less.

He's doing the right thing, protecting his property, and didn't deserve the hostile response.

DM

 

An excellent watermark software, inexpensive (did I say that, on this board?) and intuitive to use, is http://www.watermarkfactory.com/products.htm

They even offer a trial version, to see if it fits you.

I use their software to mark well over a thousand (>1000) pictures a year (proof: www.rfdm.com/gallery) and it suits my non-geek level of computer expertise to a T.

 

Sorry for what? to catch a picture in other site and trying to alimented Fchat?...
sorry? to take a picture with a Copyright and indicated this one here?...
it was a honest mistake.....now take your responsabilities at first, i mean put your copyright before to do the police and the problem is resolved.

i put always my pictures with free copyright, because it s pleasure for me to divide things with others people.

as i aid to Mr Massini its to treat the problem to the base not at the end, so i think the randy's links really helpfull.

if i m sorry of something it s to disturb the thread with this picture.

Best
Christian

 

Cave quicquam dicas, nisi quod scieris optime

A lot of rumours and speculations are being told in this thread. Additionally, certain people use this thread to manipulate the facts about the stolen Ferrari 0799. I would therefore suggest that anyone who wants to contribute new information or claims to know the “truth” about the stolen Ferrari case quotes his source. It’s time to get the facts straight!

It is quite obvious that Hallingby and his friends at SCM are running a PR-campaign to cover-up the theft and the fact that Hallingby and the previous illegitimate possessors (Triarsi, Jeffrey Schwartz and Dr. Scott Rosen) are highly suspected of having committed the offence of larceny (read the police files in this respect).

The Swiss owners of the stolen car are as is known in the scene Mr. Friedli and Dr. Gerber. Mr. Friedli died in 1996. The partners never had any civil dispute as wrongfully claimed in SCM. The heirs of Mr. Friedli support Dr. Gerber until today.


Both partners knew vey well when and where the theft took place. Immediately after realizing the theft out of a garage called “Motorauto Marbella” (a bogus company in the hand of the Italian mafia), Mr. Friedli filed a criminal complaint in Marbela/Spain against members of the Italian Mafia (Santopaolo clan). Ferrari VIN 0799 was stolen together with three other Ferraris cars in the ownership of Mr. Friedli (Ferrari 250 GT spider, 1960, VIN 1893, red colour; Ferrari 365 GT 2 + 2, 1970, VIN 13811, blue colour; Ferrari 250 GTE 2 + 2, 1961, VIN 2925, black colour).

The four cars were transported to Portugal as the Spanish Police found out. The Portuguese Police was investigating the case as well but could not track the cars. The theft happened in July 1993. Dr. Gerber was/is working with Swiss Police and Interpol and filed a criminal complaint as well.

Mr. Friedli sued the Mafia members in Marbella/Spain, who were responsible for the theft. He was working in cooperation with Dr. Gerber, who supported Friedli in the background. Mr. Friedli and Dr. Gerber were not successful at the court of Marbella/Spain because the judges of Marbella and the mayor (Jesus Gil y Gil) were very corrupt and had direct links to the mafia. The mentioned bogus company “Motorauto Marbella” (a stolen car business and the place where the theft happened) was part of a holding called “Ramirez Group”. This group was under the control of the Dean Judge of Marbella (Pilar Ramirez), who was expelled from office later. Many members of the board of the Ramirez Group and its companies were well known Mafia members like Gianni Meninno. Gianni Meninno was the right hand of Mafia boss Felice Cultrera. (see http://80sreborn.blogspot.com/2007/12/insider-view-translated-from-spanish.html and http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1566804/International-sharks-stole-18m-from-widow.html).


Friedli and Gerber lost a lot of time in Spain and later had to realize that their cars showed up in the US. This is one of the reasons why it took such a long time until they became active in the US.


Conclusion:
The question is not if Ferrari VIN 0799 is stolen good, this fact was never questioned by any serious law enforcement authority in the US and Europe. The question is, if Hallingby knew about the theft and ignored it!



Sources:
The criminal complaints of Friedli and Gerber can be found in the files of Connecticut State Police, which are accessible to the public.

The information about the corrupt justice system of Marbella, the Mafia controlling this town and the bogus company “Motorauto Marbella” (a stolen car business) can be found here:

http://past-editions.surinenglish.com/noticias.php?Noticia=8192
http://www.citymayors.com/politics/marbella_corruption.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/spains-female-wyatt-earp-in-the-dock-marbellas-anticorruption-judge-has-made-enemies-on-the-costa-del-crime-phil-davison-reports-1428977.html
http://www.elmundo.es/1999/07/13/espana/13N0085.html
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-57746228.html
http://www.elmundo.es/2000/02/23/espana/29N0037.html
http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/1999/junio/23/nacional/gil.html
http://80sreborn.blogspot.com/2007/12/insider-view-translated-from-spanish.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1566804/International-sharks-stole-18m-from-widow.html

 

250 GTE 2+2 #2925 GT turned up in New Jersey in April 1995. See ads in Ferrari Market Letter, Volume 20 Number 8 and Volume 20 Number 9, dated 15 and 29 April 1995. It was described as black with tan interior and the asking price was US$ 50 Grand.

Marcel Massini

 

You place a higher standard on Hallingby than on Friedli and law enforcement, but of course, you have to have that double standard otherwise the con wouldn't pass the smell test.

The car has been in public in shows and advertised for sale in the U.S. since the mid 1990's, yet somehow law enforcement and Friedli/Gerber knew nothing of the Ferrari car scene for another decade?!

Laughable.

Your con failed. Give it up.

 

Interesting first post from an anonymous poster!

 

Does not sound like a neutral party to me. Is his making the post as "billable hours"?

Jeff

 

Q:

You have publically stated:
"It is quite obvious that Hallingby and his friends at SCM are running a PR-campaign to cover-up the theft and the fact that Hallingby and the previous illegitimate possessors (Triarsi, Jeffrey Schwartz and Dr. Scott Rosen) are highly suspected of having committed the offence of larceny (read the police files in this respect). "

These are very serious accusations against: Hallingby, his friends at SCM,Triarsi, Jeffrey Schwartz and Dr. Scott Rosen.

Just to be perfectly clear are you standing by your public statements quoted above?

A:

 

And will you identify yourself when making such accusations?

 

I doubt it.

 

Well, just how hard could it be to find a lawyer named 'Goldstein'?

>8^)
ER

 

If I were a guessing man, and I'm just guessing here, I would turn to Tampa, FL, and guess it was Dr. Scott Goldstein, but, I'm just guessing... most likely wrong.

IP check?

Mike in Kuwait

 

Wrong.

Marcel Massini

 

ok.... it WAS a guess, Marcel....

Hope you had a great New Year's and that 2010 is a great year for you....

Mike in Kuwait