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  1. vectorfiles

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  2. BigTex

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    Insert "Not this sh*t again* .gif here.

    I think they will find it VERY hard to PROVE "who knew what, and when".....although they might have him, on the 'plate swapping' charges, if there's pictures.
     
  3. VIZSLA

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    Plate switching at car shows? I'm agast ;)
     
  4. No Doubt

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    Nope. The whole "article" reads as a press release from the *civil* attorney of the client being sued for defaming Hallingby.

    So Hallingby didn't register a track/specialty car for current road-going license plates. That's not a crime, and moreover that has no bearing on the client who defamed Hallingby by claiming that he had purchased a stolen car.

    The one cool tidbit in that press release was that the detective was finally named: Richard Van Tine.

    No doubt Hallingby is considering his options there.

    Anyway, that "new" article was written by someone who doesn't understand (or doesn't want the reading audience to understand) the difference between criminal and civil trials.

    There is no criminal investigation of Hallingby...that matter was dropped. There is only Hallingby suing 2 publications in *civil* trials for defaming him.

    That's the court case being referenced, poorly, in that "new" article. A civil trial. Initiated by Hallingby!

    Oy vey...
     
  5. BigTex

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    It actually slanders him again, IMO "implying" the State had a case but you know "money was tight" so they let it slide...
     
  6. Napolis

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    Ditto.




     
  7. Napolis

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    Ditto.
     
  8. sam231

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    Why is this news. Lawsuits like this happen every day...that's why firms carry insurance. Leave poor Barney alone.
     
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    #659 Ashman, May 25, 2011
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    Must have been an extremely slow day for society gossip at the NY Daily News to basically paraphrase a press release from the attorney.

    That's why people who want relevant real society gossip turn to the NY Post!
     
  10. Napolis

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    Very Very True.
     
  11. Texas Forever

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    Has a trial date been set?

    Dale
     
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    This case is currently in the discovery phase. If the matter goes to trial, don't expect anything to happen before November/December.

    Gerald Roush and John Barnes have tried unsuccessfully to have the case dismissed. They are now using the media to further embarrass Barney Hallingby.

    Barney has his Ferrari 250 GT back. Had the Ferrari been stolen, it would be in Switzerland right now. The FML and Cavallino have damaged his good name and reputation. Barney is entitled to compensation from Roush and Barnes, as well as a retraction.

    I have a feeling that once Roush and Barnes finally realize that they are fighting a losing battle, a retraction and undisclosed settlement will be in order…. and everyone will be friends again.
     
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    Must be tough to fight a battle when you're no longeer alive or am I missing something?
     
  14. Cavallino-Rampante

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    Roush refers to his estate and FML. And they are fighting a losing battle.
     
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    Ok thanks, to be honest this deal has so many twists and turns I've had a hard time keeping up.
     
  16. Cavallino-Rampante

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    At the end of the day, the only winners in the case will be the lawyers.
     
  17. Jeff Kennedy

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    Isn't that a typical situation?

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  18. Napolis

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  19. Jeff Kennedy

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    Just thinking that by the time this is all done the attorneys will all be buying their new Ferraris based upon their billables; win or lose. If someone is real adept at racking up their hours then maybe they will be looking at a vintage Ferrari instead.

    Jeff
     
  20. No Doubt

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    There is more at stake than money, lawyers, and reputations. Remember that someone caused a car to be confiscated by police. In my opinion, there was a crime committed against Hallingby.

    So criminal, not just civil, issues are in play.
     
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  22. xs10shl

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    So if, for example, FML is forced to cease publication because they cant afford to defend themselves, how does the rest of the Ferrari community benefit from this in the long run?

    The assumption I'm making here is that there is a reasonable chance of the defendant being found not guilty, based on what I understand.
     
  23. No Doubt

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    The Ferrari community wins and loses, sadly. The "win" is that others are less likely to run with unvetted or erroneous information in public, the loss is that respected sources close. If there is a market for such sources, however, someone else will step up to the plate.

    Another way to look at it is that "benefitting the Ferrari community" does not provide a publisher with blanket immunity from slander.
     
  24. Napolis

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    Exacto.

    If Barney winds up owing both FML and Cavalinno I'm sure he'll do a good job running them properly and not publishing things that show a reckless disregard for the truth and defame someone as IMO the advertisement they both published clearly did.
     
  25. Texas Forever

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    I dunno, Jim. I hope there is more to this story than what has been posted here or said in SCM. I'm not a lawyer, but I don't see any actionable damage. If I were the judge, I'd tell both parties to mediate a settlement because, if they don't, they are not going to like my decision.

    Dale
     

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