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Strange squeal at cold startup,

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  1. stevepaa

    stevepaa Formula Junior
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    Strange squeal at cold startup, at 1300 rpm...It goes away after third start.

    Any ideas? aux belts are less than a year on car
     

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  2. stevepaa

    stevepaa Formula Junior
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    after waited 4 hours for engine to cool down,
    frequency is 102 HZ for water pump belt, should be 120-130 hz
    frequency is 116 HZ for AC belt, should be 160-170 hz

    these are DAYCO belts from AW Italian, should I replace with Ferrari labeled from Ricambi, or should I retension?
     
  3. Ricambi America

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    While you may ultimately need to replace a belt anyway, I'd more likely suspect the tensioner pulley - 172537.
     
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  4. stevepaa

    stevepaa Formula Junior
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    Daniel, can you add that to my order of the belts
     
  5. ferraridriver

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  6. stevepaa

    stevepaa Formula Junior
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    I just removed the covers and will do that tomorrow, thanks
     
  7. stevepaa

    stevepaa Formula Junior
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    sprayed on ac belt and squeal is not there. I will wait a few hours and try agin to be sure
    funny that the squeal only lasts a few seconds
     
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  8. ferraridriver

    ferraridriver F1 Rookie

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    As belts wear in their effective I.D. increases just a bit, sometimes enough to squeal. Maybe just needs a slight adjustment.

    I'd be surprised if the Belt Ease didn't cure the squeal.
     
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  9. fatbillybob

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    Sometimes it will come back 1000s of miles later. I have used a puff of wd40 that will stop squeal but not make belt slippery. I have used toothpaste. I have never used "belt dressing" just because other stuff works too but belt dressing is for this job
     
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  10. Rifledriver

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    In my opinion belt dressing just hides an underlying problem. Id properly tension the belts and see what happens.

    And Dayco belts are Dayco belts whether it also says Ferrari or not.
     
  11. stevepaa

    stevepaa Formula Junior
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    Should I retension to spec or just a little more to eliminate squeal?
     
  12. ferraridriver

    ferraridriver F1 Rookie

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    Brian is correct, I meant using Belt Ease as a diagnostic tool, not a permanent cure.
     
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  13. Rifledriver

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    The specification is actually pretty carefully determined to be sure the belts do not slip and not put more than required load on the bearings.
    If you think guesswork will achieve a better outcome, knock yourself out.
     
  14. stevepaa

    stevepaa Formula Junior
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    Okay, thanks
    I will retention to spec
    frequency for water pump belt, 120-130 hz
    frequency for AC belt, 160-170 hz
     
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  15. stevepaa

    stevepaa Formula Junior
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    finals. 120 Hz and 162 Hz
     
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