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Stump the Experts 2: WHAT and WHY this Lusso different?

Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by rob lay, Oct 14, 2004.

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  1. rob lay

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    Something on back half of car, did not come from the factory like this, but maybe a common problem and resolution.

    Have to look very closely and compare with stock Lusso's.
     
  2. PSk

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  3. teak360

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    Top half of taillights should be orange.
     
  4. rob lay

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    All very possible, but not the specific thing I know for a fact. Very hard to see, but it's actually a big part.
     
  5. Bryan

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    Alloy wheels. OEM was Borrani wires.

    The license plate doesn't say "Rob250GTL"...

    The Kamm-tail spoiler is more pronounced than "standard" (whatever that means in an early Ferrari.) Should help with downforce and reduce oversteer.

    FYI...PF's personal Lusso also had this higher spoiler, so Scaglietti did make them like this.
     
  6. Lee White

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    The 275 bumper?
     
  7. zjpj

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    what's this? a speaker or something?
     
  8. Bryan

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    Pass through for skis!
     
  9. rob lay

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    These were his track wheels. This one is really really hard, I'll let others play along if they want, if you want the answer right away, PM me.
     
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    AC, rear mount?
     
  11. Jdubbya

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    I'm certainly no expert, but it almost seems like the exhaust tips are located up closer to the bumper and possibly a little shorter. That's my guess.
     
  12. John Vardanian

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    Seems there is more of a curve or a bulge over the trunk lid.

    Grasping for straws...
     
  13. teak360

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    OK, its kind of hard to see, but it looks as though the sill below the door has
    been made in to one piece with the front and rear fenders.
     
  14. Jdubbya

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    Or is it that the rear wheel arch is slightly modified? Could be the views I'm looking at but it appears that the rear end of the wheel arch is tapered to the rear a little more? Just one more guess.
     
  15. zjpj

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    It definitely looks like the car is a little raised; it looks there is more space between the tires and the body than in other Lussos; but could it just be my imagination because of the different wheels?

    I still think there's something behind the seats...
     
  16. xs10shl

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    The dead body in the trunk instead of the spare tire? . . . no, thats probably not it. . . .
     
  17. xs10shl

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    Well here's something:

    Common Problem: Jack plug falls off while driving
    Solution: Forget about it, its gone - keep going
     
  18. olinde

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    Trailer hitch?
     
  19. Steve Magnusson

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    The thinness of the C-pillar (and the disharmony of the two bordering window edge shapes) strikes me as a little odd for the period (looks like a pointed pyramid next to a curved ellipse). Did they really have such big rear windows? Only thing I know about Lussos is I'd take one in a heartbeat ;)
     
  20. macca

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    Wasn't there one featured in Cavallino a while back that had a different wheelbase from standard, and body mods? Is that the one? The rear quarterlight/pillar area looks shorter than normal.

    Or is it really a SWB or GTB with a Lusso tail grafted on?


    Paul M
     
  21. rob lay

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    BINGO!!! We have a winner!

    Not saying that what everyone else mentioned is wrong, but this is what I was looking for.

    Late seventies the rear window broke, at the time a correct rear window couldn't be found so they replaced it with one just almost the same size. It required a little body work as the window was just a little larger than original.

    You can really tell by looking at the rear window roof support beam (C-pillar?), it is just a tad narrower than a standard Lusso.
     
  22. teak360

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    Oh yeah......that's what I meant to say.
     
  23. Steve Magnusson

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    That rear window mod probably does really help the driver's rearward visibilty, but the shapes are just too conflicting -- never would have got past Mr. P-F IMO.

    Rob -- send the prize money in small unmarked bills ;)
     
  24. Miltonian

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    Hmmmmmm. I'm not sure I believe this. You're saying that there is a car out there someplace that uses a rear window that is about 99.5% identical to a Ferrari Lusso, and that particular window glass WAS available but the Lusso glass was NOT available, and that the owner decided that it was better to modify the body on his car to fit the available glass than to wait a while to find the correct glass or have a plexiglass window made in the correct dimensions?

    To me, this doesn't make sense. And I looked at pictures of several Lussos last night, and the window pillar looks pretty much the same to me, possibly allowing for a slight variation in the thickness of the rubber seal. The SHAPE looks the same, the gap is posssibly questionable.

    So - does the owner of this car know this story to be factual? Did he have the work done himself? What kind of a car did the glass come from?
     
  25. GaryReed

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    Here's a rear shot of a Lusso that I found on Google.

    The rear window pillar area/size in question, looks about the same to me.
     

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