Just saw your reply. Never meant to be a smart ass to you. It was a factual question. did you see it on chrono24? and where can I find a new Lange for 10k? I'd buy 3, even for Saxonia, and I think I can make some easy money. It does not take a horology genius to figure it out. You just need to google. To the op, @SCKOMS, that is a great purchase! I was about to recommend this one, Big Pilot 43 from IWC, at this crazy moment of watches market. Right on the budget as well as for its horology and history within IWC.