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Discussion in 'Australia' started by Aircon, Dec 9, 2013.

  1. Aircon

    Aircon Eight Time F1 World Champ

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    Why wait? What are you scared of? You know I'm not going to hit a girl.....but I might say mean things.
     
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  3. j15

    j15 F1 Rookie

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    What I am saying is that friends who are honest and respect each other ought be able to work issues out themselves. That might require letting things go, forgiving, compromising, or offering some form of atonement for the sake of maintaining a friendship. In those circumstances, the desire to be proven right ought be secondary. (Of course, some things that friends do to each other might be so extreme that a person simply cannot forgive).

    Arbitration might help resolve an issue, but I don't see how it could be healthy for a friendship. One person will more often than not think the other is a wanker for dragging the issue into a formal dispute resolution process, rather than just yielding to an informal compromise.

    There might be friends out there who would willingly and with equal enthusiasm want to go down the route of an arbitrator, but I haven't met them yet. 20m from my desk at work is a mediation and arbitration room. The people I see going in there don't ever look like willing participants, and the hate and anger is often palpable.
     
  4. Aircon

    Aircon Eight Time F1 World Champ

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    Ok......arbitration isn't looking like a promising positive outcome.

    People just fight over the most stupid things sometimes, and in my little mind having a 3rd party decide seemed like a good way to get to an amicable conclusion. Maybe I'm too sensible and logical. I'd want to do it that way rather than lose a friend......just because we can't agree on one stupid thing, and a yelling match just seems silly.
     
  5. kimbo 308

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    Ok so I will see you at the 2014 concourse then?
     
  6. Aircon

    Aircon Eight Time F1 World Champ

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    I don't usually go. Why are you waiting? What are you scared of? I'm very gentle.
     
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  8. kimbo 308

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    Do please come to the concourse, it'll be such fun.

    Lots and lots of people will be there!
     
  9. j15

    j15 F1 Rookie

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    Arbitration is amicable if people want to be there and are happy to spend the money doing it. I don't really know anyone like that, but I know that people are much happier when they can come to an agreement without the assistance of others.

    Having a third party as a determiner is a good way to resolve issues, it is simply that friends shouldn't need to resort to that. If friends need arbitrators or courts, then what hope do people at arms length have?
     
  10. Aircon

    Aircon Eight Time F1 World Champ

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    The arbitration I'm thinking of costs nothing. VCAT, for example. Maybe I'm giving people too much credit. Friendships end over such dumb things sometimes where a 3rd party could shed some light....but maybe not.
     
  11. moretti

    moretti Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Well just for other people's benefit and possible help into the future here is how it panned out :

    Car was running "sweet" right up until 1st Dec when the FCA QLD xmas party was due

    Car seemed to get flooded so I pull the plugs, dry them using a flame

    Put the plugs back in but she still don't start

    PP gave me the old set he pulled out when he personally put the new NGK iridium plugs in

    The old set were put in and the car nearly started

    I go to Bursons and ask for the Bosch alternative

    UR6DE are the Bosch plugs for the 355

    I get them overnight from Melbourne (great service from Bursons and friendly people to boot)

    I put these new copper core plugs in and bango, starts first go.

    I read on the net that copper plugs provide the best performance but they don't last as long as platinum or iridium but then find out that the EXPENSIVE platinum plugs foul much easier which is the problem I'm having !!!

    AND, the copper core plugs cost $5 each, the platinum plugs sell for $35 each from Autobarn, $22.95 from Supercheap.

    Lesson learnt here is that the copper plugs are not only cheaper but perform better and cold starts are now normal.

    I love my car again :)
     
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  13. Aircon

    Aircon Eight Time F1 World Champ

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    I'm sorry, but what's that got to do with fat ugly people with fat heads?
     
  14. 365GTC/4

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    JM wrote that post. Get with it.
     
  15. Aircon

    Aircon Eight Time F1 World Champ

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    Poor Moretti.
     
  16. Aircon

    Aircon Eight Time F1 World Champ

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    #63 Aircon, Dec 10, 2013
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    Which one is Balboni in this photo??
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  17. 365GTC/4

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    Richard Simmons second from left or maybe he is a replica?
     
  18. moretti

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  19. Aircon

    Aircon Eight Time F1 World Champ

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  20. Horse

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    What?

    How many schools?
     
  21. Aircon

    Aircon Eight Time F1 World Champ

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    oh ffs....I have to stop making fun of phil on ae while I'm posting on fchat.
     
  22. moretti

    moretti Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Nothing ever is but I'm going on personal experience
     
  23. PAP 348

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    kimbo 308 has banned for posting a forum members surname (which is obviously private) without their request.

    The same applies to everyone on this forum, so you have been warned. Most of you have been here long enough to the know the rules of the forum.
     
  24. Aircon

    Aircon Eight Time F1 World Champ

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    he, or she, will be sadly missed.
     
  25. RandyDean

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    What if your last name is part of or is your user name, does that mean you just banned yourself?
     
  26. kerrari

    kerrari F1 World Champ
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    No, relationships (business, personal whatever) end over such things and can be arbitrated. I say again, a TRUE FRIEND never goes down these lines. Think about your REAL friends (assuming you have any, LOL :) ) who've stuck with you in the hard times and compare how this 'friend' is treating you.

    I'm banging on about this as many people can't differentiate between buddies and friends - a whole different kettle of fish. I've had dustups with lots of folk, but NEVER with a real friend. That's what makes them real friends.
     
  27. Aircon

    Aircon Eight Time F1 World Champ

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    You realise this is hypothetical, right? It's not actually happening.

    Good point about buddies and friends.
     
  28. ants2au

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    Just get Carl to arbitrate..he is impartial and cheap :)

     

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