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Sultan of Brunei's Car Collection

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  1. Citronella

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    Wow, 3 in the uk now....are they still under Royal ownership?? Thats a shame they repainted the green one, i remember them shipping that one out from the workshops in brunei, the leatherwork was all coded green too, it really looked the nuts, i have too say that during my whole time spent in brunei...having reviewed as much as the collection i could see, the Yellow Venice estate was simply the most gorgeous car in brunei, seriously in the flesh with its blood red interior it was simply the most sexy car you have ever seen...and its a damn estate i mean come on get real...but it even turn Mclaren mechanics heads..and they didnt turn for anything, the venice estates where a true Farina bespoke...uprated powertrain in the fact there was a whole new gearbox layout, gone was the FFD ricardo unit which didnt match the torque spec of the v12, a few lighten parts thrown into the engine with some map work gave this beast very supercar times..and its an estate...but the best thing about driving this car was looking back in the mirrors on a wet road...the small venturi on the rear created huge white out roostertails... makes u feel all buck rodgers type, gotta get my kicks from something

     
  2. Peloton25

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    Great information - I had the details of a longtail road car (the black one) having been in Brunei from a very credible source and was suprised when others claimed that was not correct.

    McLaren built 3 of the cars, but not all were black. The breakdown on longtail road car chassis, officially called the "F1 GT" looks like this.

    54F1GT - Black - Originally in Brunei, now most likely in a private collection in England. The current owner's name is believed to be John Studdelhome or Stuttleholm or something like that.

    56XPGT - Silverstone Green - this was the prototype hence the 'XP' designation in the chassis number. At last report, McLaren was still in possession of this car. It used to be on display at the new McLaren Technology Center in Woking, but hasn't been seen in a while. McLaren has in the past offered this car for sale privately at a quoted price of £1M, but up until late-2003 had seen no takers. They may or may not still have it and I hope to have more info soon.

    58F1GT - Burgundy - last seen in the ZAZ Museum in Nagoya, Japan which is owned by Yoshio Tsuzuki. This car has not been seen in photos taken inside the museum within the past year and may have been sold. Two other F1s from Tsuzuki's collection were sold in the past year (#053 & GTR #13R), so this one may have gone as well. Tsuzuki is the original and current owner of LM2 and also owned road car chassis #018 at one point.

    >8^)
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  3. jgcferrari

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    I have been told that all the Yellow with Red interior cars were owned by the Sultans nephew.
     
  4. Citronella

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    yeah i know what you mean, i hate the plonkers on here that say THIS and THAT like they are the experts and really all they are is Monday Experts (seen something on tv or read a newspaper on the weekend then all of a sudden they are the worlds foremost expert on the issue). My purpose here is to chat alittle about from what i actually know about my time spent in brunei. and whats happened since as thats an area i dont know much about but interested to learn. i hate these ferrari no-it-alls who honestly believe they have all the facts, ohhh take a back seat and shut up, not having a dig at ferrari geeks...cos iam one too but just shut up if you dont know what your talking about..i can smell your bull a mile away, honestly i could never own a ferrari..way outta my price range but hey i do love talking about them, anyhows what iam getting at is i have recieved some good info from people who never have been to brunei but know more than i do post Brunei crash...and without the bull... Cheers Peloton cos you certainly have better knowledge of Macs than i do and its cool that you can tell me things i didnt expect or know about

    QUOTE=Peloton25]Great information - I had the details of a longtail road car (the black one) having been in Brunei from a very credible source and was suprised when others claimed that was not correct.
     
  5. Jin1976

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    I guess our government have recover alot now since the crash. Ohterwise there won't be payrise as His Majesty had recently announce on his 60th Birthday. Btw on and off there are auctions of the Ferrari's, Porsche and other collections.
     
  6. Jin1976

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    I often seen the Venice being driven to the town Bandar Seri Begawan and parked infront of the shopping mall and own the road driven by a female driver. It's black. Kind of surprised me to see a Ferrari wagon.
     
  7. Jet-X

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    What I wouldn't do to have a 456 Venice Wagon, in green no less :( That car *should* have been built, it just kicks. But to hear it is silver, depressing, really depresssing.
     
  8. Pav

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    Not all of the PF Bentleys were sold but the B3s were auctionned. The B3 is really something i dig and i would like to own. The metallic black one (not the stealth black) or the BRG are just stunning. I'm not into the red and yellow colors. I would like to find the new owners and ask them the clauses of ownership.

    Still i think that having the complete list of cars (global database updates were carried every 6 months or so) at the very last moment before some were leaving would be a blast. Still i'm really interested into exporting the ones which are export-able. 2 F50s (for sure, perhaps more) are still there.


    Thanks for all the info Citronella.
     
  9. BAM

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    Thanks to both Citronella and peleton, this is really interesting.

    Peleton...Do i see you in "the car lounge" on vortex from time to time as well??
     
  10. EnzoNZ

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    Several 355s and 456s ended up here in NZ. There have been electrical failures and dead ECUs due to poor/non existent maintenance and neglect while in Burnei. A well known broker who was invited to Brunei to look over the interesting cars when everything became 'available' saw many Ferraris rotting outside - literally. Carpets, leather etc damp and covered in mould.
     
  11. Peloton25

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    That would be me. :)

    >8^)
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  12. SefacHotRodder

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    I saw the ex-grey w/ red pinstripe F40 2 weeks ago. It is in excellent condition. The conversion work was done by PF and is top notch, the car is now very special and looks stunning. The price being asked is higher than the market price for a LHD F40.
     
  13. Jet-X

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    I was told this morning that the silver car is still owned by the royal family (Brunei), and that it is used when visiting.
     
  14. BAM

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    you internet whore!!! :)
     
  15. SefacHotRodder

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    Correct. This is the light silver car that has always been silver. Not the repainted green car
     
  16. chilidog

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    These cars were actually owned by the Sultans brother Prince Jefri, i know because i used to work at the garage where all the car were stored.
    If you go on google earth and put in the latitudes and longitudes of
    4 57 1036 N / 114 50 1867 E
    That is the garage where all the cars are.
    I have a complete list of all the cars that were there.
     
  17. SefacHotRodder

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    Thanks. I always wondered where the garages were. Did you see any of the McLarens?





    Chris
     
  18. chilidog

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    yes i saw all of them 9 in total.
     
  19. SefacHotRodder

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    I don't suppose you remember the colour of the road cars? I assume 9 means:

    1 Longtail GT
    3 LM's
    5 Road Cars (At least 1 now out)
     
  20. Jet-X

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    How 'bout posting or emailing it to us? I'm really curious
     
  21. SefacHotRodder

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    Yes PLEEEEESE
     
  22. Ermanno Claypool

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    Yeah,

    post the list,please!
     
  23. chilidog

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    Aug 11, 2006
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    Here it is chassis numbers and everything.

    ENJOY !!!!!!!!!!


    FERRARI

    FER F40 BM8383 ZFFGJ34B000091283
    FER F40 BM7878 ZFFGJ34B000090680
    FER F456 GT BP6996 ZFFSP44C000103662
    FER F456 GT BN2338 ZFFSD44C000100878
    FER F456 GT BN3223 ZFFSP44C000103190
    FER F456 GT BN1839 ZFFSD44B000100685
    FER F456 GT BN1898 ZFFSD448000099918
    FER F456 GT BP456 ZFFSD44C000101074
    FER F456 GT BP22 ZFFSD45C000101408
    FER F456 GT BP66 ZFFSP44C000103292
    FER F40 BP77 ZFFGJ34B000080756
    FER TESTAROSSA KE9393 ZFFAA17C000080456
    FER F512 TR BN1299 ZFFLA40C000095172
    FER TESTAROSSA BN9978 ZFFAA17C000077679
    FER F512 TR BN1221 ZFFLA40C00097749
    FER TR SPYDER BP8899 EFF109
    FER F355 BN8885 ZFFTR48C000103191
    FER F512 M BN8800 RFFVA40C000101550
    FER F512 TR BM9889 ZFFLA40C000095660
    FER F456 GT BP20 ZFFSD44C000102199
    FER F50 BN3003 ZFFTA46B000103034
    FER F50 BP76 ZFFTA46B000102902
    FER FX BN8899 ZFFBA40C000101368
    FER F288 GTO BN1212 ZFFPA16B000056641
    FER F288 GTO BK65 ZFFPA16B000056655
    FER F40 RHD KF7896 ZFFGJ34B000082825
    FER GTO KF9876 ZFFPX16X0J0079889
    FER MONDIAL BM6767 ZFFLD14C000047753
    FER F288 GTO BN2288 ZFFPA16B000057727
    FER F355 BP355 ZFFPA41C000100096
    FER TESTAROSSA BN9599 ZFFAA17C000080440
    FER TR SPYDER BP8890 EFF110
    FER F355 BN8883 ZFFPR48C000103057
    FER F355 BN1229 ZFFPA41C000100192
    FER FX BP512 ZFFBA40C000101676
    FER F512 TR BN8838 ZFFAA17C000077711
    FER F90 BL99 ZFFAA17C000086626
    FER F355 BN7117 ZFFPR48C000103019
    FER TR SPYDER BP8898 EFG089
    FER TR SPYDER BK75 EFF112
    FER TR SPYDER BP8988 EFG086
    FER F328 BM8585 ZFFZA27B000081818
    FER TESTAROSSA BN8118 ZFFAA17C0000809E9
    FER F512 TR BL9988 ZFFLA40C000094729
    FER TESTAROSSA BN9911 ZFFAA17C000067769
    FER TR SPYDER BP8998 EFF111
    FER F512 TR BL9990 ZFFLA40C000095140
    FER TESTAROSSA BN9969 ZFFAA17C000083531
    FER TR SPYDER BN6326 EFG090
    FER F348 BN2727 ZFFUA43C000098847
    FER F355 BN3553 ZFFPA41C000100603
    FER F355 BN1228 ZFFPA41C000000168
    FER F355 BN8890 ZFFPR48C000102915
    FER F456 GTA KF9889 ZFFWP50C000106001
    FER F456 GT BN1189 ZFFSD44C000098946
    FER F456 GT BN1819 ZFFSD44C000098054
    FER F456 GT BP6363 ZFFSO44C000101396
    FER F456 GT BN2029 ZFFSD44B000100034
    FER F456 GT BN2552 ZFFSD44C000101914
    FER F40 BM8686 ZFFGJ34B000085074
    FER F456 GT BP6969 ZFFSP44C000104023
    FER F456 GT BN8282 ZFFSD44C000102758
    FER F456 GT KF8789 ZFFWP44C000104833
    FER F456 GT BN2339 ZFFSD44C000101770
    FER F348 GTS BM6868 ZFFKA36C000085669
    FER F355 BN7171 ZFFPR48C000103173
    FER F355 GTS BN1882 ZFFPZ42C000100301
    FER F348 BM9190 ZFFUA43C000097262
    FER F512 TR BL9887 ZFFLA40C000094631
    FER TESTAROSSA BN1881 ZFFAA17C000090960
    FER F40 BN909 ZFFGJ34B000094759
    FER F456 GT BN1928 ZFFSD44C000101888
    FER F456 GT BN1908 ZFFSD44C000101744
    FER F328 GTS BM3883 ZFFZA28B000081307
    FER F456 GT BN3773 ZFFSP44C000103162
    FER F348 TB BN7337 ZFFKA35C00086066
    FER TESTAROSSA BM6790 ZFFTA17C000057855
    FER F328 GTS BN2099 ZFFWA20C000066055
    FER TESTAROSSA BK79 ZFFAA17C000080492
    FER F412 BJ9988 ZFFYD24C000071981
    FER TESTAROSSA BP7999 ZFFAA17C000075400
    FER F400i DPD ZFFEB06C000054411
    FER F412I BQ9699 ZFFYD240000079525
    FER F355 BN3355 ZFFDA41C000100581
    FER F456 GT BN8585 ZFFSD44C000102771
    FER F456 GT BN2929 ZFFSD44C000100012
    FER F328 GTB BP2999 ZFFWA19C000065397
    FER F90 DPD ZFFAA17C000086784
    FER TR SPYDER BP8778 EFG088
    FER TR SPYDER BN1779 EFG091
    FER F456 GTA KF8819 ZFFWP50C000105942
    FER F355 BN89 ZFFTR48C000102968
    FER F50 BN8787 ZFFTA46B000103033
    FER F412 DPD ZFFYD24C000074385
    FER F456 GT BN8383 ZFFSD44C000101565
    FER F456 GT BN1209 ZFFSD44C000099972
    FER F456 GT KF65 ZFFSP44C000098947
    FER TR SPYDER DPD EFF113
    FER F348 KF108 ZFFUA43C000097784
    FER F512 TR BL9886 ZFFLA40D000094532
    FER F50 BP1789 ZFFTA46B000103047
    FER F355 BN8988 ZFFPA41C000100120
    FER F456 GT BN3377 ZFFSD44C000101810
    FER F512 TR BN512 ZFFLA40C000099224
    FER F50 BM18 ZFFTA46B000102813
    FER F308 GTS BF500 ZFFLA13C000047409
    FER F355 GTS BP2 ZFFAA42C000101789
    FER F456 GT BN1838 ZFFSD44C000100213
    FER TESTAROSSA BL9901 ZFFAA17C000086586
    FER F456 GT KF9000 ZFFSP44C000103380
    FER F90 BM9119 ZFFAA17C000087195
    FER F456 GT BP1154 ZFFSP44C000103996
    FER F512 TR BN1198 ZFFLA40C000099236
    FER F90 KF6781 ZFFAA17C000086390
    FER F90 KF6785 ZFFAA17C000083096
    FER MYTHOS DPD EFH089
    FER F512i BB BP8881 ZFFJA09C000047693
    FER F40 RHD DPD ZFF9J34B000084574
    FER FX BN393 ZFFVA40C000103957
    FER F456 GTA BP1977 ZFFWP50A8V0106345
    FER F456 GT BN1188 ZFFSD44C000098935
    FER FX BP39 ZFFVA40C000103396
    FER F456 GTA KF9995 ZFFWP50C0000105838
    FER F456 GT BP70 ZFFSP44C000104368
    FER F456 GT BQ12 ZFFSD44C000102069
    FER F288 GTO BM9988 ZFFPA16B000055671
    FER F456 GT KF8800 ZFFSP44C000103368
    FER F550 BQ7171 ZFFZR49B000106471
    FER F550 BP6161 ZFFZR49B000106131
    FER F550 BP18 ZFFZR49B000105969
    FER F456 GT BQ1100 ZFFSP44C000103261
    FER F456 GTA KF9908 ZFFWP50C000106046
    FER F456 GTA KF9909 ZFFWP50C000106742
    FER F456 GT KF8890 ZFFSD44B000101381
    FER F456 GT BR3003 101385
    FER F456 GT DPD ZFFSD44C000099869
    FER F550 KF9979 ZFFZR49C000107620
    FER F550 BP65 ZFFZR49C000107916
    FER F456 GT BM65 ZFFSP44C000103219
    FER F456 GTA KF9900 ZFFWP50C000106714
    FER F456 GT KF9939 ZFFSP44C000102946
    FER F550 BP7000 ZFFZR49C000107931
    FER F456 GT N562NGB 104397
    FER F456 GTA BP7007 ZFFWP50C000106728
    FER F50 KF98 ZFFT4B000102852
    FER F456 GTA BP3888 106332
    FER F456 GT BN2089 ZFFSD44C000098958
    FER TR SPYDER DPD EFG087
    FER F456 GT BP8999 ZFFSD44C000098970
    FER F40 RHD BP8883 ZFFGJ34B000087455
    FER F456 GT BP9008 ZFFSD44B000101316
    FER F456 GT BP8882 ZFFWP44C000104612
    FER F456 GTA BP88 ZFFWP50C000107229
    FER F456 GT BQ8898 ZFFSD44C000099970
    FER F456 GT D1VOT ZFFSD44C000099844
    FER F456 GT P43MVW 107489
    FER F456 GT N652SCU ZFFWP44C000104584
    FER F456 GT P95NWU ZFFWP50C000105867
    FER F456 GT P251FON ZFFWP50C00010620
    FER F456 GT P250FON ZFFWP50C000105701
    FER F456 GT KF8799 ZFFSD44C000101409
    FER F512 M BQ8800 ZFFVA40C000105098
    FER F456 GT BP9000 ZFFWP44C000104723
    FER F550 BQ7054 ZFFZR49C000107890
    FER F456 GT BQ9900 ZFFWP44C000105599
    FER F550 BR65 ZFFZR49C000107945
    FER F456 GT BQ7052 ZFFWP44C000104626
    FER F550 BP9888 ZFFZR49C000109529
    FER F456 GT BP8000 ZFFWP44C000104777
    FER F550 BP6000 ZFFZR49C000109570
    FER F456 GT BP9998 ZFFWP44C000105425
    FER F456 GT BP9111 ZFFWP44C000105382
    FER F40 BP8885 ZFFGJ34B000089431
    FER F90 BQ7600 88171
    FER F40 LM KF7899 ZFFGX34X0L0088523
    FER F456 GT BQ7562 ZFFWP44C000105543
    FER F550 BQ9929 ZFFZR49C000107889
    FER F456 GT BQ7557 ZFFWP44C000107639
    FER F456 GT BR8000 ZFFWP44C000107636
    FER F550 BQ9191 ZFFZR49C000109571
    FER MYTHOS BQ7576 EFI118
    FER TESTAROSSA BQ9559 ZFFTA17C000058425
    FER F308 BQ7574 ZFFLA13C000058487
    FER F275 BQ7572 7795
    FER FX BQ9977 ZFFLA40C000099664
    FER FX BQ7535 ZFFL440C000099665
    FER MYTHOS BQ7532 EFH103
    FER F50 BQ7436 ZFFPA46B000107500
    FER F550 BQ7540 ZFFZR49B000110086
    FER F456 GTA BQ9922 ZFFWP50C000109951
    FER F355 GTS BP404 ZFFPA42C000102606
    FER F550 BQ8585 ZFFZR49C000110119
    FER F50 BQ1110 ZFFTA46B000107545
    FER 355 F1 BS88 ZFFXR480000111221
    FER F550 BQ1212 ZFFZR49C000110135
    FER F512 TR BQ7057 ZFFLA40C000099284
    FER F550 BQ1221 ZFFZRA49C000110136
    FER F348 GTS BL9266 ZFFKA36000085871
    FER F550 BS9977 ZFFZR49B000110257
     
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    OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG


    Speachless



    Thank you so much
     
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    Shoot me now!Go on please!
     

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