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  1. Sir Paul

    Sir Paul Formula Junior

    Feb 22, 2008
    537
    HONG KONG
    I just wanted to let you know that when my SA gets its annual service in April, I will be changing the short gas struts in the roof turning mechanism. They are no longer able to help keep the trunk open when the roof is open. This is a good indicator that they are fading.

    This will be the second time of changing them, so their life on average, for me appears to be about 3-4 years.

    I have written in earlier threads about this and the ease and low cost in which the local agent replaced them, so it is not too much of a problem. However, I wish I could get a couple of uprated matching struts that would be a bit beefier and therefore I presume would last longer?

    Just thought I would let you all know.

    Regards
    PAUL
     
  2. 2005575superamerica

    May 11, 2011
    130
    New York
    Did you change part # 63701800 STRUT table 17 location # 6

    These are the struts in the trunk. A very cheap and do it your self project

    Changing them solved my sagging trunk issue

    If you are talking about the small struts in the carrier please provide supplier and part #
     
  3. Sir Paul

    Sir Paul Formula Junior

    Feb 22, 2008
    537
    HONG KONG
    #3 Sir Paul, Jan 17, 2014
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2014

    Aah! back to the old debate!!

    Not quite sure where you get that number though? I believe those (#63701800) are the struts for the Hood, not the trunk.

    The last time this happened 3-4 years ago it was for both trunk and roof mechanism. At that time the #69059300 struts (parts diagrams page 117 #2) would not even hold the trunk open without the roof lying on it and so I changed them. I changed both #69059300 on each side myself. As you say, easy and inexpensive. I did the Hood struts #63701800 too, just because they also were sagging.

    That fixed the trunk, but alone they were not enough to do both trunk and roof lying on it.

    I had to get the local dealer to replace both #69271600 struts in the roof mechanism at that time and that fixed the whole thing. What I am saying now is that whilst the #63701800 struts appear to be still working fine, the shorter #69271600 struts (page 119 #27) are going again and need replacing. Therefore I deduce their life expectancy is only good for 3-4 years at a stretch each time. Having them changed was not that dificult or expensive but left it to the dealer to do.
    Total cost (in Hong Kong) was just over US$1,000.

    Hope that explains?

    Thanks
    PAUL
     
  4. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Jul 19, 2008
    39,034
    Clarksville, Tennessee
    Full Name:
    Terry H Phillips
    Paul- I would look at a strut rebuilding service if I were you, and possibly check for someone who makes a heavier duty strut that matches the OEM strut length.
     
  5. Tassie

    Tassie Formula Junior

    Dec 17, 2009
    349
    Tasmania, Australia
    Full Name:
    Wayne Clark
    Paul,
    Nothing special about struts.
    I changed my boot lid ones on the Barchetta for less than US$100, did it myself (with wife holding the boot) in less than 5 minutes.
    The struts have several numbers on them, write them all down (or photo) and take that info to a strut (industrial gas strut) supplier and I am sure they will have one on the shelf. The ends screw out (but check the threads) so any end shape can be got.
    Just as easy to have someone hold the boot, take the strut off and show it to the supplier.
    Part of the number on the strut is the gas pressure (likely to be 250KN) which can be matched.
    Higher pressured means it will open the boot faster and be harder to close. Should make no difference on life or possibly shorter if anything.
    Hope this helps.
    By the way, Barchettas are better - except when it rains.......... Have fun in the SA.
     
  6. Sir Paul

    Sir Paul Formula Junior

    Feb 22, 2008
    537
    HONG KONG

    Hi Tassie
    Thanks for those comments.
    However, I think you may be misunderstanding the issue. Trunk and Hood struts as you say, no problem.
    But, the SA folding roof (the bit missing from the Barchetta) is a bit more complicated.

    Within the roof mechanism are another two small gas spring struts which assist with opening and closing. To change these, you need to dismantle the roof mechanism, which requires tools and not just my wife's fair hands to assist.

    Thanks anyway.
    PAUL
     
  7. Sir Paul

    Sir Paul Formula Junior

    Feb 22, 2008
    537
    HONG KONG
    Maybe next time (or if struts prove tougher to obtain, this time)!
    Thanks
    PAUL
     
  8. 2005575superamerica

    May 11, 2011
    130
    New York
    Sir Paul

    Your part # is correct. I looked at a 575 part diagram.

    As I am sure you are aware we are all on the same page.

    I replaced the same items as you and the result, as told by a master tech at Ferrari... is the problem still exists.

    I am happy that it worked for you but a better long term solution would benefit us all.

    A few more months here in the North East US and our italian beast's hibernation will be over and we can enjoy open air driving once again.

    All the best
     
  9. Sir Paul

    Sir Paul Formula Junior

    Feb 22, 2008
    537
    HONG KONG
    Thanks
    The nice thing about Hong Kong is the weather is never that cold. All year use of the car!
    I probably also told you before I never drive the car with the roof closed except when I get caught in the rain. I think that also helps prevent the glass delamination too. My roof glass is stil in perfect condition.
    PAUL
     
  10. Sir Paul

    Sir Paul Formula Junior

    Feb 22, 2008
    537
    HONG KONG
    BTW I read up on gas struts and their performance (pressure) is a function of outside temperature too, which explains why the trunk tends to stay up longer when the temp is warmer than colder. Perhaps a few more psi in the struts from new might make them a bit more robust? That might be a longer term solution if we can get them beefed up or buy beefier strust that fit?
    PAUL
     
  11. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Jul 19, 2008
    39,034
    Clarksville, Tennessee
    Full Name:
    Terry H Phillips
    Paul- I would lean in that direction, too. Are you changing the inside struts, too. No part number for those, but they can be rebuilt or replaced, too, once the dimensions are known.
     
  12. Sir Paul

    Sir Paul Formula Junior

    Feb 22, 2008
    537
    HONG KONG
    #69271600 is the part number for the inside struts. Had them changed once already, 3-4 years ago. See above. Paul
     

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