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Survivor Mangusta / nice

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  1. 1969 Mangusta

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    Way, Waay, Waaay too much for that one.
     
  2. vyprgt2

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    Just curious why you say that...?

    I'm not too hot on the color, and it is a 2 headlight model which lowers the value somewhat, but it does have some of the original tools and seems to be in nice shape...

    Several nice Geese have sold $90K-$110K this past year
     
  3. silver1331

    silver1331 Formula Junior
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    I think this car sold for 69k at RM in August, didnt it?
     
  4. jm3

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    I think it ended up NOT selling, even though I remember it listed as sold. There are some nice Mangustas for sale right now, just as there are nice any-car-you-want for sale right now.

    I think the 2 headlight cars run at least 20K less, and this color doesn't help. Plus there are some unoriginal mods like the front spoiler that minimize the "survivor" value.

    The black 1969 at Mohr Imports for sale is particularly nice, I have inspected it in person. I think there are 5 mentioned for sale at MangustaInternational.com.

    Jay
     
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  6. 1969 Mangusta

    1969 Mangusta Formula Junior

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    Late to the thread, this IS a nice car but you can get a Hell of a goose for that money. If I recall correctly a stellar black goose sold 2 years ago for 89K and may have been a Concorso car. Beautiful nonetheless but 65K tops
     
  7. 1969 Mangusta

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    I just noticed that the Mohr Imports car is the one I was talking about....that goose is worth the money, very sharp car... it looks like it bathed in money to get it where it is.
     
  8. DenisC

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    Sorry guys, I think the ASKING price is fair. The car looks very original and clean from the pics. I admit the front spoiler is different, but anything is possible as there were no set rules on what was THE way to build the car. There are small differences from car to car aonly noticed when you compare yours to others.

    2 or 4 headlight car is a mater of choice. Giugiaro designed 4 headlights I admit that, but there were fewer 2 headlight cars. )Personally I would not trade my 4 headlight for a 2 headlight car). But the Europoeans don't care as it seems fewer Euro cars have survived.

    I don't think you can find a car (even a rough one) for less than $75K. This one is turnkey and 99.9% complete (missing jack).

    Denis
     
  9. vyprgt2

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    #10 vyprgt2, Jan 18, 2010
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    I tend to agree- asking price is fair. Decent Mangustas are $70-$85, good ones $85-95, really nice ones are $95-120. I could see this one selling for $89-92K....even with the color and the 2 headlights.

    The average asking price on Mangusta International is over $90K. The car for $120 K apparently has sold per his youtube video.

    The Mohr Imports car for $109 is a better color, 4 headlight car with what looks like a nice restoration, but not original, not low mileage, no original paperwork, no tools, no jack, radio and heater are dead.
     
  10. velocetwo

    velocetwo F1 World Champ

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    It's just the Pantera guys not being able to cope or understand that original cars sell for more than "modified" cars.
     
  11. GhostRider

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    Comparing a Mangusta to a Pantera is completely two different things. One they only made a few hundred of, one they made several thousand of. Obviously rarity is going to impact price, and in my opinion, far more than originality.
     
  12. ParaPantera

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    Us Pantera guys can cope and understand that the rest of the world do not understand that a well sorted and upgraded (read "modified") Pantera is worth only what a buyer is willing to pay. Pantera's appreciate at roughly 3% a year, period. I did not by my car as an "investment" and most Pantera owners do not, they buy them because they want nice styling, a mid-engine layout, and can be modded to run with todays best cars and you don't have to buy $600 distributor caps or $5,000 clutches.

    This is coming from a former Corvette owner and NCRS member..........I remember trying soooo hard to keep my matching number 427 car perfect..........it took the fun out of it.

    Even off of the assembly line no two Pantera's are EXACTLY the same, stuff was pulled off the shelf as they went down the line. I don't know, maybe we are a slightly different breed of auto enthusiests. We do not take our cars to the shop to be "serviced", we do not need to take it to a shop to fix a window switch, we are do-it-yourself people who enjoy time in the garage more so than watching a portfolio.

    We don't just turn keys, we turn wrenches :)
     
  13. Mang

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  14. ParaPantera

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    Mike, nice Goose! Contrary to my previous post, the more factory correct a Mangusta is the better!
     
  15. Mang

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    Ron, thanks but you don't wanna' know...FAR from factory 'original'...this one :)
     
  16. velocetwo

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    I notice the one has pop up lights your does not. Funny I never saw it before, but they have what looks like an Alfa 101 brake handle.
     
  17. velocetwo

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    I notice the one has pop up lights your does not. Funny I never saw it before, but they have what looks like an Alfa 101 brake handle.
     
  18. Mang

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    the 4 headlight models are considered 'more desireable' than the later pop-up headlight models, even though the pop-up headlight numbers are 'rarer'

    ...that's the word on the 'mangusta street' :)
     
  19. velocetwo

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    The front of my Fidia looks a lot like the Mangusta, especially without it's bumpers.

    It is interesting how different the Mangusta is from the Miura that Giugiaro did.
     
  20. f308jack

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    Giugiaro did a Miura? I haven't seen it, pics?
     
  21. Mang

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    ...should read, Guigiaro looked at a photo of a Miura and then improved on it with the Mangusta :D
     
  22. DenisC

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    #23 DenisC, Mar 26, 2010
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    Mike, The Muira was first shown at the 1966 Geneva Auto show ( March '66) and the Mangusta was first shown at the Turin auto show (November '66). Man those guys must have worked a lot of overtime to build a body from scratch that fast (There might have been some industrial espionage,*they were copying so fast they forgot to change the tailights)

    Both the Muira and the Mangusta's rolling chassis(es) was (were) first shown at the 1965 Turin show. Very different, both mid-engined cars one had a transverse V12 and tha other lenghtwise American based powerplant. (DeTomaso had made new heads and a new injections system and claimed 500+ hp) and the original car had (I beleive) a Hewland transaxle. The original Muira prototype chassis is now in the hands of Gary Bobileff (again, it is quite different from the production unit)
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  23. DenisC

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    Giugiaro while at Ghia did the Mangusta body while the Muira was penned by Gandini at Bertone.

    Now I am often reminded that there were a vast aray of factories and supplies in less than a 20 mile radius.
     
  24. Mang

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    Denis, Gandini came up big for Lamborghini, thats for sure!

    I would love to get my grubby hands on a set of those monster wide Mangusta no doubt 'Campy' wheels on the 'rolling prototype chassis'! Look to be 10"...12"...14" wide?...in the rear.
     

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